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Lisa Gevelber is the founder and leader of Grow with Google, Google's economic opportunity initiative focused on helping people build skills, careers, and businesses. Through Google Career Certificates and AI training programs, she has helped millions of learners develop workforce-ready skills and navigate an increasingly AI-driven economy.

💡 5 Things You’ll Learn in This Episode

1. Why AI fluency is becoming an essential workforce skill for every profession.
2. How Grow with Google is helping learners build practical AI skills at scale.
3. The growing role of AI credentials and certificates in higher education.
4. How universities are integrating AI training into student, faculty, and alumni learning.
5. Why lifelong learning and career mobility will be critical in the age of AI.

✨ Episode Highlights
[00:03:10] The founding story of Grow with Google and its mission to expand economic opportunity through skills training.
[00:04:16] Lisa explains the difference between simply using AI and becoming truly AI fluent.
[00:06:20] How Google keeps AI training current through educator partnerships and bite-sized learning.
[00:08:06] The Google AI Professional Certificate and its ACE recommendation for college credit.
[00:10:14] How the University of Virginia is combining AI certificate learning with real-world small business impact.
[00:12:41] The rapid growth of Google's AI for Education Accelerator and the power of peer learning among institutions.
[00:14:24] Why flexible, industry-recognized credentials are becoming essential for career transitions and lifelong learning.
[00:17:08] Lisa shares where educators, students, and professionals can access Grow with Google resources.

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Cooley LLP is the go-to law firm for education and edtech innovators, offering industry-informed counsel across the 'pre-K to gray' spectrum. With a multidisciplinary approach and a powerful edtech ecosystem, Cooley helps shape the future of education.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

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Join hosts Alex Sarlin and Ben Kornell as they discuss the growing backlash against AI and screen time in schools, the launch of a federal education tax credit, promising new evidence for AI-powered remediation, workforce disruption from AI, and the future of higher education with Noah Pickus of Duke University.

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:03:40] AFT shifts its position on AI and screen time in schools
[00:07:25] i-Ready faces growing parent backlash despite strong adoption and efficacy data
[00:13:36] New federal Education Freedom Tax Credit could accelerate school choice and supplemental learning
[00:17:46] Education savings accounts create new opportunities for edtech business models
[00:20:09] New research highlights AI's potential to help students catch up academically
[00:23:16] Guided practice emerges as a promising framework for AI-powered learning
[00:24:56] Survey finds 99% of executives expect AI-driven workforce reductions within two years
[00:31:29] Anthropic's rapid growth reshapes the competitive landscape for generative AI

Plus, special guests:
[00:35:39] Noah Pickus, Head of Global Strategy and Partnerships and Senior Advisor to the Provost at Duke University, on the Future Universities Alliance and reimagining higher education globally

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Cooley LLP is the go-to law firm for education and edtech innovators, offering industry-informed counsel across the 'pre-K to gray' spectrum. With a multidisciplinary approach and a powerful edtech ecosystem, Cooley helps shape the future of education.

Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

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Sam Olivieri is the CEO of and has spent more than two decades expanding educational opportunity through leadership roles at GreatSchools, Entangled Solutions, and Guild Education. Daniel Halper is Co-Founder of Step Up Tutoring and leads Step Up AI Labs, where he develops AI-powered tools that help novice tutors deliver high-impact instruction at scale.

💡 5 Things You’ll Learn in This Episode:

1. Why Step Up Tutoring believes relationships and not AI alone drive student success
2. How AI can coach and support tutors instead of replacing them
3. The opportunity to transform federal work-study into a national tutoring corps
4. How Step Up uses AI to align tutoring with district curricula like Eureka Math
5. What it takes to scale high-impact tutoring affordably across the country

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:03:15] Sam Olivieri explains why tutoring remains one of education’s most evidence-based interventions.
[00:07:00] Daniel Halper shares how Step Up Tutoring launched during COVID as a grassroots volunteer movement.
[00:09:48] Daniel discusses why AI should support tutors rather than replace human relationships in learning.
[00:11:36] Sam outlines how federal work-study funding could help build a national tutoring corps.
[00:14:41] Daniel breaks down how Step Up’s AI tools support tutors before, during, and after sessions.
[00:18:52] Sam explains how AI evolved from tutor feedback into curriculum alignment and student mastery assessment.
[00:21:20] Step Up Tutoring shares its vision of providing every child in need with an effective human tutor supported by AI.

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Cooley LLP is the go-to law firm for education and edtech innovators, offering industry-informed counsel across the 'pre-K to gray' spectrum. With a multidisciplinary approach and a powerful edtech ecosystem, Cooley helps shape the future of education.

Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

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Join hosts Ben Kornell and Alex Sarlin as they explore the growing backlash against AI in education, the race to build AI-native learning systems, and the shifting future of edtech, workforce learning, and global education policy.

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:02:18] Reflections and takeaways from this year’s ASU+GSV Summit
[00:05:16] Gen Z backlash against AI grows at college commencements
[00:08:06] China’s practical AI rollout contrasts with the U.S. race toward AGI
[00:15:09] Anthropic and Gates Foundation launch a $200M AI education partnership
[00:23:02] Debate over the future and business model of AI tutoring
[00:29:25] OpenAI expands its “Education for Countries” initiative
[00:37:28] New education tax credits could shift spending power to families
[00:42:15] Google, Meta, and Apple push AI glasses and XR learning forward
[00:48:40] AI simulations gain traction in workforce training
[00:51:06] Multiverse raises $70M for AI-driven workforce upskilling

Plus, special guests:
[00:55:51] Angel Chung, PhD Candidate at The Wharton School, on proactive AI tutoring systems and new research showing measurable learning gains for students using adaptive AI guidance
[01:18:08] David Rogier, Founder and CEO of MasterClass, on AI-powered learning, the future of higher education, and MasterClass Executive — developed alongside OpenAI & Chicago Booth to explore the future of AI-native business education.

Learn more here: https://www.masterclass.com/booth-ai

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Cooley LLP is the go-to law firm for education and edtech innovators, offering industry-informed counsel across the 'pre-K to gray' spectrum. With a multidisciplinary approach and a powerful edtech ecosystem, Cooley helps shape the future of education.

Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

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Jason Katcher is the Global Education Channel Lead at Superhuman, where he focuses on scaling AI-powered productivity and communication tools across education through strategic partnerships. Previously at Google, Dropbox, and multiple edtech startups, Jason brings deep experience in education technology, AI adoption, and go-to-market strategy.

💡 5 Things You’ll Learn in This Episode

1. Why schools need to move from “AI policing” to AI coaching
2. How Superhuman and Grammarly are rethinking writing in the AI era
3. What “show your work” looks like for AI-assisted writing
4. Why simple workflow tools often outperform flashy edtech products
5. How AI-native productivity platforms could reshape teaching and learning

✨ Episode Highlights
[00:02:53] Jason shares why partnerships are key to scaling edtech globally
[00:08:13] The story behind Grammarly’s evolution into Superhuman
[00:11:32] How “AI at the edge” brings tools directly into existing workflows
[00:13:50] Why AI writing should be treated as a “show your work” moment
[00:15:24] Jason explains why teachers are becoming “AI police” — and why that needs to change
[00:18:30] How students are increasingly using AI as a thought partner instead of a shortcut
[00:20:18] Superhuman’s vision for faculty-controlled AI guardrails in education
[00:24:09] Jason’s advice for edtech companies selling into schools during the AI transition
[00:28:41] Why the best edtech products solve simple workflow problems
[00:30:27] What’s next for Superhuman Go and AI-native productivity in education

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Cooley LLP is the go-to law firm for education and edtech innovators, offering industry-informed counsel across the 'pre-K to gray' spectrum. With a multidisciplinary approach and a powerful edtech ecosystem, Cooley helps shape the future of education.

Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

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Join host Ben Kornell for a special episode featuring leaders across digital literacy, AI-native schooling, student support, and curriculum innovation in K–12 education.

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:02:10] Lisa O’Masta, CEO of Learning.com, on why digital literacy and AI literacy must start in elementary school
[00:18:34] Aaron Feuer, CEO and Co-founder of Panorama Education, reflects on building Panorama into a platform serving one in four U.S. students
[00:32:34] Larisa Hovannisian, Founder and CEO at Armenia Education Initiative, explains why Armenia is positioned to leapfrog legacy education systems
[00:43:50] Alexandra Walsh, Chief Product Officer at Amplify, discusses bringing classroom experience into product leadership

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Cooley LLP is the go-to law firm for education and edtech innovators, offering industry-informed counsel across the 'pre-K to gray' spectrum. With a multidisciplinary approach and a powerful edtech ecosystem, Cooley helps shape the future of education.

Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

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Kumar Garg is the President of Renaissance Philanthropy, where he leads thesis-driven philanthropic funds focused on major global challenges. Previously, he worked in the Obama White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and helped build Eric Schmidt’s science and tech initiatives.

💡 5 Things You’ll Learn in This Episode:

1. How AI is projected to impact jobs, with forecasts suggesting modest but meaningful workforce contraction
2. Why community colleges and skilled trades may see rising demand in an AI-driven economy
3. How “superforecasters” are being used to predict labor market shifts more systematically
4. What policymakers and educators should track to prepare for AI-driven disruption
5. How Renaissance Philanthropy is rethinking how capital flows into big, thesis-driven ideas

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:02:34] The origin of Renaissance Philanthropy and its thesis-driven funding model
[00:07:00] Why Kumar Garg built the Labor Automation Forecast Hub
[00:10:30] The role of super forecasters in predicting AI’s impact on jobs
[00:13:00] Key projections: job displacement, slower growth, and shifting career paths
[00:15:30] Community colleges vs. four-year degrees in the AI economy
[00:17:45] Why the future of work is a “big dislocation,” not a collapse
[00:21:00] How forecasts evolve and why trend direction matters more than exact predictions
[00:23:30] Reactions from policymakers and what data matters most
[00:26:18] The growing importance of regional workforce forecasting
[00:26:49] Kumar’s outlook on the future of philanthropy and deploying capital at scale

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Cooley LLP is the go-to law firm for education and edtech innovators, offering industry-informed counsel across the 'pre-K to gray' spectrum. With a multidisciplinary approach and a powerful edtech ecosystem, Cooley helps shape the future of education.

Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

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Stephen Jull is the Global Head of AI and Educational Technology at Teach For All, leading efforts to connect educators with frontier AI labs. He’s joined by Maruf Hasan, a Bangladesh-based educator building AI tools in low-resource settings, and Sean McWeeney, a UK teacher focused on AI’s impact in high-need schools.

💡 5 Things You’ll Learn in This Episode:

1. How teachers are moving from AI users to AI builders
2. Why the most impactful AI innovation is happening in classrooms, not companies
3. How global educator communities accelerate learning and innovation
4. The role of AI in supporting underserved students and closing learning gaps
5. Why teacher ownership is critical to the future of edtech

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:01:20] Introduction to Teach For All’s AI initiative and global educator community
[00:05:22] Stephen Jull on building partnerships between teachers and frontier AI labs
[00:08:16] Sean McWeeney on creating AI tools for marking and real classroom needs
[00:11:59] Maruf Hasan on using AI to support underserved students in low-resource settings
[00:14:51] How the AI community operates without centralized control and why it works
[00:18:30] Global collaboration: shared challenges across classrooms worldwide
[00:22:35] The power of community in turning non-technical educators into builders

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Cooley LLP is the go-to law firm for education and edtech innovators, offering industry-informed counsel across the 'pre-K to gray' spectrum. With a multidisciplinary approach and a powerful edtech ecosystem, Cooley helps shape the future of education.

Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.