Behind any innovative idea with the potential to become a household name is rarely a single “a-ha” moment, but a trail of experiences long before what outsiders see as overnight success happens.
For Felix Chen and Rudy Pham, one of those moments was an eight-to-ten-hour trek through Hanes Valley, B.C., where they tossed around business ideas as they tried to find their way back on the right path. At the top of the boulder field, they landed on one they knew was worth pursuing and, to their surprise, hadn’t been attempted before.
Three years later, they would innovate a new category born from an East-to-West staple, catch the attention of major retailers, and sell their products in 100 stores across the province. They’d also appear on Dragons’ Den, where they received multiple investment offers.
That idea? Triple X.O.G., the world’s first ready-to-drink cocktail of its kind, ranked among the top sellers in B.C. It blends French cognac, jasmine green tea, and Canadian honey with light carbonation. At 5% ABV, Triple X.O.G. was crafted to offer both an elevated and accessible beverage for any occasion—from intimate gatherings to public events—and to cater to a spectrum of palates: those who seek depth of flavour or lean toward something lighter.
The brand’s mission goes deeper than an experience that’s “unlike anything on the market.” It’s intended to represent Asian heritage, culture, and connection. Triple X.O.G. pays tribute to the concoction’s origins in Hong Kong, and it’s a nod to an adapted version found in Vancouver.
This is the story of two best friends turned business partners with no background in the beverage industry but infectious energy and relentless hustle, who stayed true to their vision for two years as they bootstrapped the company before launching.
00:00–3:58: Show, episode, and guest intro
3:59–5:00: The moment Felix and Rudy decided to found what would become Triple X.O.G
5:01–6:16: Why they decided to take the risk to pursue the idea
6:17–7:42: Why they believe no one had yet to pursue the idea
7:43–8:39: Being in the “very early innings” of celebrating Asian culture outside of Asia
8:40–11:48: The first six months of navigating how to create the product
11:49–15:42: The process of finding and working with a formulator
15:43–18:57: Why they went with their intuition over feedback to finalize the recipe after 35 iterations
18:58–20:53: The process of finding and working with a manufacturer
20:54–22:15: Building a community of fans / discovering the Dragons’ Den audition
22:16–23:42: Being persistent in getting people to try the product
23:43–26:05: How they got into their first retail store and how that led to getting into their first chain
26:06–27:00: The impact of building in public over in stealth
27:01–31:31: What keeps them grounded during challenging moments
31:32–34:17: What happened after the Dragons’ Den episode and what’s coming up in the year ahead
34:18–37:30: Advice for other early stage founders