Entrepreneur and philanthropist Pete Kadens joins Ravin Gandhi and Al Goldstein for one of the most candid political conversations we've had. A lifelong Democrat, Pete doesn't shy away from criticizing his own party, while also challenging conservatives on issues ranging from democracy and immigration to education, meritocracy, and the future of America.

This isn't a shouting match—it's three longtime friends debating difficult issues with honesty, data, and mutual respect.

Pete Kadens is a serial entrepreneur, investor, and philanthropist.

He co-founded Green Thumb Industries, one of the largest publicly traded cannabis companies in the United States, and previously co-founded SoCore Energy, a leading commercial solar developer.

Through Hope Chicago, Pete has helped thousands of students and families pursue higher education by funding college tuition and wraparound support services. The organization has committed more than $100 million toward expanding educational opportunity in Chicago.

00:00 Introduction

02:00 Is socialism taking over the Democratic Party?

08:30 The biggest threats facing American democracy

12:00 Personal responsibility vs. victimhood culture

18:45 Can education fix America's biggest problems?

25:00 What broke public education?

33:00 Why college is losing its value

41:30 Meritocracy, DEI, and affirmative action

49:30 Immigration and America's border debate

58:30 The Supreme Court and the future of conservatism

1:02:00 Lightning Round

1:07:00 Pete predicts the 2028 election

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