Johnny Hilbrant (aka PE Guy) sits down with Heather McMahan for a conversation that starts funny, gets real fast, and ends somewhere most business or comedy interviews never go.
What begins as a conversation about comedy quickly becomes a look at how Heather actually runs her career — treating stand-up, touring, podcasting, and specials as a real operating system, not just creative output. She talks candidly about building multiple income streams in an oversaturated creator economy, why she chooses to self-produce her specials before selling them to platforms like Netflix and Hulu, and how owning your audience gives you leverage that no algorithm ever will.
But the heart of the episode is the part you can’t plan for. Heather opens up about losing her father and how sharing grief publicly — before it was “content” — reshaped both her life and her relationship with fans. Johnny shares his own experience losing his sister, and the two unpack how loss rewires ambition, sharpens empathy, and changes what success actually means when you’ve been through something that big.
Along the way, PE Guy still shows up — real estate plays, spending many coins at the Masters merch tent, red carpet moments with E!, and the tension between money, ego, and freedom when creative work starts to scale.
This episode is for anyone building something unconventional — creators, founders, operators — who want the truth about turning personality into product, pain into perspective, and momentum into something that actually lasts.
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