• Why Smart Founders Still Struggle After the Exit - Dr. Michelle Fritsch
    2025/12/28
    What happens after the deal closes is the question too few founders ask. In this conversation on Your N.E.X.T., Jerome Myers sits down again with Dr. Michelle Fritsch to explore why even highly successful founders feel lost, disconnected, or unprepared after exiting their businesses. Together, they unpack the often-ignored realities of post-exit life—identity loss, health decline, strained relationships, and the myth that money alone creates fulfillment. The conversation also introduces the thinking behind the Exit Ready Summit, a boardroom-style experience designed to help founders prepare not just financially, but personally, relationally, and purposefully for life beyond the business. [00:00 – 07:00] | The Question Founders Avoid Most founders ask when to exit, not who they’ll be afterExits are transformational portals, not just transactions Identity loss is the biggest blind spot in exit planning [07:01 – 14:00] | Why Health Is the First Domino Burnout is often a biological warning, not a mindset failure Chronic stress erodes decision-making long before exits occur Founders often sacrifice sleep, recovery, and relationships to “push through” [14:01 – 21:00] | The Myth That Money Fixes Everything Financial readiness does not replace identity or purposeWealth without structure can magnify loneliness and confusion Time and talent atrophy without intentional direction [21:01 – 28:00] | The Identity Vacuum After the Exit Many founders experience cognitive fog and loss of relevance Structure disappears overnight, leaving emotional free-fall Divorce and relationship breakdowns often spike post-exit [28:01 – 35:00] | Why Purpose Cannot Be an Afterthought Exiting from a business is not the same as exiting to something meaningful Lack of purpose leads to isolation, depression, and disengagement Relationships that once defined daily life often disappear post-exit [35:01 – 42:00] | Who the Exit Ready Summit Is—and Is Not—For Designed for founders who want clarity, not just liquidity Not for those unwilling to be vulnerable or self-reflective Small, boardroom setting enables real conversations Key Quotes “Relevance is one of the first things founders quietly grieve after they exit.” - Dr. Michelle Fritsch Burnout is not a mindset problem. It’s often a biological warning sign.” - Dr. Michelle Fritsch Connect with Dr. Fritsch!Website: properlyourwellness.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michellefritsch Join industry leaders shaping the future and secure your spot at the Exit Planning Summit today! https://exitplanningsummit.com/speakers Exit Ready! A Private Boardroom Experience for Business Owners Preparing to Exit Without Regret! 👉 https://exitreadysummit.com/ Ready for your next chapter?Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Why Real Estate Matters More Than You Think in an Exit - Jason Bush
    2025/12/21
    Most founders believe the value of their business lies entirely inside their operating company. In this episode, Jason Bush joins Jerome Myers to challenge that assumption and expose one of the most overlooked exit-planning risks: real estate misalignment. Drawing from Jason’s two exits, his background in engineering, business advisory, and commercial real estate, and his work at Linville Team Partners, this conversation unpacks how poorly structured leases, ownership entities, and rent strategies can quietly destroy enterprise value. You’ll hear real-world horror stories, surprising valuation math, and a powerful framework for turning real estate from a liability into a strategic wealth-building lever before an exit ever hits the market. [00:00 – 07:00] From Engineering to Exit Clarity Jason shares his early career as a civil engineer and his first successful business exit Why one exit worked and another failed despite strong income The difference between owning a “job” and building a sellable enterprise [07:01 – 15:00] Why Exits Fail Even When the Business Looks Strong Most exits fail due to lack of clarity, not lack of revenue Why a liquidity event rarely changes how people think about life The danger of exiting without a clear “what’s next” [15:01 – 24:00] Brokerage vs Advisory: A Critical Distinction The difference between business brokerage and real estate brokerage Why advisory work starts long before any transaction How advisors miss value when real estate is treated as an afterthought [24:01 – 33:00] The Real Estate Horror Story Every Founder Should Hear A real example where a multimillion-dollar business became unsellable How month-to-month leases can destroy buyer confidence Why M&A advisors often overlook real estate risk until it’s too late [33:01 – 42:00] OpCo, PropCo, and the Valuation Blind Spot Why operating companies and real estate must be separate entities How under-market rent inflates EBITDA but reduces real exit value The hidden cap-rate advantage of moving value into real estate [42:01 – 52:00] Turning Real Estate into Optionality, Not Risk How paying market rent can increase total enterprise value Why real estate is often more valuable than the business itself The power of optionality when exits are structured correctly Key Quotes: “Real estate is often valued at a higher multiple than the business, yet it’s treated like an afterthought.” - Jason Bush “Most founders don’t realize they have two businesses to exit: the operating company and the real estate.” - Jason Bush Connect with Jason!Website https://www.ltpcommercial.com/brokers/jason-bush/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-bush-value-advisor/ Join industry leaders shaping the future and secure your spot at the Exit Planning Summit today! https://exitplanningsummit.com/speakers Ready for your next chapter?Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • The Business You Never Left After Your Exit - Jerome Myers
    2025/12/14
    Many founders believe the exit is the finish line, but what happens after the deal closes often reveals a deeper challenge. In this solo episode, Jerome Myers explores why so many exited founders unknowingly rebuild the very businesses and lifestyles they were desperate to escape. He introduces the concept of the “ghost business” and explains how unprocessed identity loss, fear, and unresolved trauma quietly pull founders back into familiar patterns of overwork and self-imposed prisons. Through powerful metaphors, real-world observations, and reflective questions, Jerome reframes the exit as a starting line rather than an ending. He offers a path toward clarity, freedom, and intentional post-exit living. [00:00 – 03:15] The Ghost Business That Follows Every Founder Many founders rebuild businesses not from purpose, but from discomfort with stillness The post-exit “next thing” often exists to avoid more profound identity questions Fulfillment is mistaken for activity, leading to busy work instead of meaningful work [03:16 – 06:45] When Identity Is Tied to Output Founders often define their worth by productivity and problem solving Silence after exit can feel like irrelevance rather than freedom Losing daily validation creates anxiety and self-doubt [06:46 – 09:40] Free Time Can Become a Prison Most founders have never truly experienced rest If time is not intentionally allocated, it becomes overwhelming Avoiding what matters most is often disguised as dedication to work [09:41 – 12:55] Trauma, Motivation, and the Ghost of the Past Unprocessed exits function like unresolved trauma Motivation driven by fear replaces inspiration driven by purpose Founders recreate old patterns even when circumstances have changed [12:56 – 15:40] The Signs You Never Really Exited New ventures feel emotionally and operationally familiar The same stress loops and overcommitment reappear A liquidity event without inner change is just a relocation of the prison [15:41 – 20:00] Exiting To Something, Not Just From Something True post-exit success requires a clear North Star Freedom without direction creates drift, not peace The exit is the starting line for identity rebirth, not the end Key Quotes“Motivation runs when fear is chasing you. Inspiration runs because you chose the destination.” - Jerome Myers“Most founders don’t rebuild businesses because they need money. They rebuild them because they don’t know who they are without one.” - Jerome Myers Join industry leaders shaping the future and secure your spot at the Exit Planning Summit today! https://exitplanningsummit.com/speakers Ready for your next chapter?Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • The Post-Exit Myth: Why Founders Still Feel Empty After “Winning” - Jerome Myers
    2025/12/07
    Most founders expect happiness to arrive the moment the wire hits. But, as Jerome shares in this powerful solo episode, many founders feel more lost after a successful exit than before it. Even when the deal is smooth, the number is hit, and every professional metric says success, the internal experience can feel hollow. Jerome breaks down why joy does not automatically follow liquidity, why identity and purpose collapse after exiting, and how founders can avoid falling into the Post-Exit Void. He reveals the psychological sequence that unfolds after the deal closes, the hidden shame founders rarely admit, and a new definition of a successful exit that goes far beyond valuation. If you are building toward a liquidity event or still unraveling after one, this episode will give you clarity, language, and next steps to regain meaning, coherence, and direction. [00:00 – 03:10] The Myth of Automatic Post-Exit Happiness Founders often assume money will solve everything, but joy after a liquidity event is short-lived Adaptation to newfound wealth happens quickly, leaving many wondering what now Without a plan for life after the exit, the reality feels empty even if the transaction went perfectly [03:11 – 06:20] The Rare Reality of a Successful Exit Very few founders experience a truly fulfilling exit because the odds of long-term business survival are low Exiting into a void, rather than into a purpose, creates regret Shame, invisibility, and fear of sounding ungrateful keep founders from speaking up [06:21 – 09:15] Identity Displacement After the Exit A founder’s identity is tied to being needed, active, and in motion When the business is gone, structure and community disappear with it Having 40 to 60 hours returned each week creates disorientation if unplanned [09:16 – 12:00] Purpose Disruption and the Search for Meaning The business once supplied mission, direction, and a scoreboard Post exit, fear and scarcity can prevent new pursuits from forming Purpose is rooted in people and problems, not in finding a new distraction [12:01 – 14:45] Deconstructing the Fantasy of I Will Be Happy When Liquidity events do not bring lasting relief, completion, or peace An exit is not a finish line. It is the beginning of another chapter Money creates capacity, not identity [14:46 – 18:00] A New Definition of a Successful Exit Success cannot be measured by payout alone. Fulfillment, belonging, and identity must be included Without preparing for life after the transaction, founders may long for the company they left Exit readiness protects founders from forced exits due to death, disease, burnout, or divorce Key Quotes: “Money is capacity, not identity. Time is space, not direction. Freedom is potential, not fulfillment.” - Jerome Myers“Many founders hit their number and still wonder why they feel empty. The exit does not answer the question of who you are.” - Jerome Myers Join industry leaders shaping the future and secure your spot at the Exit Planning Summit today! https://exitplanningsummit.com/speakers Ready for your next chapter?Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Pandora’s Box of the Founder’s Exit: The Fears That Sabotage Your Success - Jerome Myers
    2025/11/30
    Most founders think the hardest part of selling their company is the deal itself. But as Jerome Myers reveals, the real challenge begins in the silence that follows. In this deeply honest solo episode, Jerome breaks down the emotional, identity, and relational fears that make exits so difficult — and why avoiding these truths leads to regret, stalled decisions, and post-exit collapse. Using the metaphor of Pandora’s Box, he explains that what founders fear isn’t the future — it’s finally having to face everything they ignored while building the business. Jerome walks through the hidden fears inside the box, the dangers of avoidance, and the power of strategic identity work. He then shares a founder story that transforms fear into clarity, illustrating how an exit can become a portal to personal evolution rather than an ending. Listeners walk away with a roadmap for beginning the internal work now, and an invitation to access the tools that make a healthy transition possible. [00:00–01:15] The Hidden Struggle Founders Never Talk About Founders publicly speak about strategy — but privately struggle with emotional impact Delays, self-sabotage, and regret often stem from unspoken fears The myth of “just sell the company and life gets better” hides deeper challenges [01:16–02:58] The Post-Exit Bliss Myth Money and time alone don’t create peace or fulfillment Many founders experience emptiness, restlessness, and identity confusion post-exit Silence after the sale can feel louder and more destabilizing than the chaos before [02:59–05:05] What’s Really Inside Pandora’s Box Identity loss: If you’re not the CEO anymore, who are you? Purpose loss: The fires and urgency disappear — and so does direction Relationship reckoning: Exit removes the busyness barrier that kept issues hidden Unrealized dreams: Success may have cost parts of the life you wanted [05:06–06:29] Avoidance: The Silent Exit Killer Avoiding emotional work leads to poor decisions: rushing, undervaluing, or holding too long Spouses and children experience sudden shifts when founders “come home” without purpose Emotional instability during exit negotiations can cost millions [06:30–07:48] Clarity as the Antidote Clarity prevents chaos, not causes it. Frameworks like the Founder’s Exit Paradox and NEO Assessment stabilize foundersThis is strategic identity work, not therapy You cannot build a meaningful “next” without knowing who you’re becoming [07:49–10:00] A Founder’s Story & Your Invitation Forward A successful founder feared the silence after the sale more than the deal itselfOpening the box led to purpose, reconnection, and meaning beyond achievement The work he avoided became his gateway to the life he wanted Key Quotes: “Clarity does not unleash chaos. Clarity prevents it.” - Jerome Myers“Exits aren’t endings. They’re portals to personal evolution.” - Jerome Myers Join industry leaders shaping the future and secure your spot at the Exit Planning Summit today! https://exitplanningsummit.com/speakers Ready for your next chapter?Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Stop Circling the Life You Want - Jerome Myers
    2025/11/23
    Many founders stay stuck in the space between yes and no, not because of timing, money, or strategy, but because of resistance disguised as logic. In this powerful solo episode, Jerome Myers speaks directly to high performers who feel called to their next chapter yet hesitate to move. He breaks down the most common objections founders use to delay meaningful growth and reveals the deeper fears beneath them—from the discomfort of pausing long enough to feel, to the fear of being truly seen without the armor of achievement. Jerome also opens up about his own experience with the Founder’s Exit Paradox and the identity unraveling that happens once success goes quiet. This episode serves as a mirror, a challenge, and an invitation to stop circling the life you want and begin stepping into it with clarity, alignment, and courage. [00:00–02:18] Sitting in the Gray Space Founders hesitate not because of time or money but because of quiet resistance Resistance dresses itself up as logic, busyness, and “reasonable” excuses The episode frames the work ahead: naming the fear so it stops running the show [02:19–04:45] The Five Surface Objections (and Their Real Meaning) “It’s not the right time” really means, “I’m scared to slow down and feel” Busyness becomes a shield protecting founders from their inner truth Pretending everything is fine becomes exhausting — and unsustainable [04:46–07:02] The High Performer’s Dilemma: “Will This Work for Me?” Strategy solves business problems, but it doesn’t heal identity problems Founders fear inner work because it requires vulnerability The Intensive works differently than a playbook — it goes to the root [07:03–09:28] Trust, Fatigue, and the Fear of Hope “I need to talk to my advisor” often signals lack of self-trust “I need a break” reveals survival mode, not true rest The deeper fear is hoping for change and being disappointed again [09:29–12:32] The Founder’s Exit Paradox Founders fear being seen without their achievements as armor Jerome shares his own unraveling after leaving his $20M division Success becomes identity — titles, applause, income, roles The question underneath everything: “Who am I without what I built?” [12:33–17:32] Choosing Your Next: The Real Invitation Speaking desires out loud dissolves guilt and activates clarityRemoving the founder mask leads to alignment, wholeness, and freedom Staying stuck is a decision — so is choosing your next chapter The Next Intensive becomes a turning point where founders finally feel alive again Key Quotes: “Vulnerability is not exposure. It’s access. It’s how you access clarity, connection, meaning, and fulfillment.” — Jerome Myers “Staying Stuck Is a Decision”— Jerome Myers Join industry leaders shaping the future and secure your spot at the Exit Planning Summit today! https://exitplanningsummit.com/speakers Ready for your next chapter?Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • The Shift No One Talks About: Exiting To vs Exiting From - Jerome Myers
    2025/11/16
    What happens when life shifts faster than you expect? In this solo episode, Jerome offers a raw and real update on the unexpected changes unfolding in his world. From becoming a faculty member at the Exit Planning Institute to being invited into rooms he once dreamed of, he reflects on recognition, alignment, and the responsibility that comes with thought leadership. Jerome also breaks down the heart of his methodology: helping founders exit to something meaningful rather than from something overwhelming. He shares behind-the-scenes experiences, upcoming speaking engagements, and the personal transitions shaping his next chapter. This is a thoughtful, grounded conversation that reminds every founder that clarity, purpose, and personal planning remain the true North Star of any successful exit. [00:00 – 01:00] A Solo Episode and a Month of Change Jerome sets the tone with a personal update instead of frameworks or concepts Acknowledges unexpected changes that appeared without warning Frames the episode around reflection rather than instruction [01:00 – 03:10] Becoming Faculty at the Exit Planning Institute Shares the milestone of joining EPI as a faculty member Describes the podcast interview and connection with Scott Snyder Calls it a dream realized after years invested in thought leadership [03:10 – 05:00] Recognition, Intellectual Property, and the Power of Personal Planning Reflects on publishing more exit-focused content than anyone in the country Points out the gap between theoretical expertise and lived exit experience Introduces his core belief that personal planning must lead the strategy [05:00 – 06:00] Exiting To vs Exiting From Defines his signature concept of exiting to instead of exiting from Exiting to creates clarity, identity, and confidence post-exit Exiting from leaves founders in a painful void that can be costly Emphasizes why alignment and future identity are essential [06:00 – 07:15] A Warm Welcome from Exit Planning Exchange Charlotte Shares the invitation to speak on November 19 with EPX Charlotte Reflects on the warmth and connection from the community Highlights the upcoming panel on life after the exit Notes how refreshing genuine, welcoming relationships can feel Key Quotes: “When founders exit TO, they leave with clarity and confidence. When they exit FROM, they find a void.” - Jerome Myers“Most people optimize their exit around goals they never defined in the first place.” - Jerome Myers Join industry leaders shaping the future and secure your spot at the Exit Planning Summit today! https://exitplanningsummit.com/speakers Ready for your next chapter?Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Why the Biggest Number Doesn’t Mean You’ve Won - Jerome Myers
    2025/11/09
    Everyone wants to know the number: what you sold your company for, the valuation, the payout. But as Jerome Myers reveals, the number is not the finish line. It is only one mile marker on the journey. In this solo episode, Jerome uncovers what truly defines a successful exit: peace, purpose, and freedom. Through powerful stories and practical frameworks, he explains the four hidden levers —structure, timing, control, and alignment — that determine whether your exit becomes an evolution or a regret. Founders will walk away with tools to measure success beyond money and to negotiate for a life that feels right, not just a deal that looks good. [00:00 – 03:30] The Illusion of the Headline Number The world celebrates the sale price, but that number rarely reflects true success Founders often chase valuation without understanding its emotional cost “You can hit your financial goal and still miss your life goal” [03:30 – 07:30] The Hidden Levers: Structure and Timing Structure determines how money actually reaches you — not just what’s promised Beware of earnouts and rollover equity tied to someone else’s performance Timing affects your freedom; stretched payments can quietly fund your own exit [07:30 – 11:30] Control and Alignment: The Freedom You Forget to Negotiate Freedom isn’t automatic after an exit — it’s negotiated Many founders unknowingly trade autonomy for an employment clause Alignment between values and culture is the silent determinant of post-exit peace [11:30 – 15:30] Redefining Winning: Beyond the Transaction Create a non-negotiables list — your personal term sheet Identify your true freedom number after taxes and fees Measure deals through the Freedom Compass: control, connection, meaning, and sustainability [15:30 – 19:00] The Power Questions That Reveal True Value Founders lose leverage when they ask for valuation instead of impact on the future self Strategic questions expose power dynamics — “Who controls the capital stack post-close?” Emotional readiness is key: “Do I know what I’m walking toward?” [19:00 – 21:30] Exit as Evolution, Not Ending The exit isn’t closure — it’s a portal to who you’re becoming Peace is the ultimate return on investment “The company was never the dream; it was a vehicle for it” Key Quotes: "You can hit your financial goal and still miss your life goal." - Jerome Myers “If you do not define your non-negotiables, someone else will, and it will not be for your benefit." - Jerome Myers Join industry leaders shaping the future and secure your spot at the Exit Planning Summit today! https://exitplanningsummit.com/speakers Ready for your next chapter?Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    25 分