If you knew you might live to 100, how differently would you think about the career you are building today?

Lynda Gratton is Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour at London Business School, where she's taught for more than thirty years and leads the world's number one ranked programme in human resources. Lynda is also the bestselling co-author of the million selling The 100-Year Life.

Ahead of the publication of her new book, Living the 100-Year Life: How to build a career that lasts and a life you love, Lynda joins David to explore why longer lives are stretching the traditional education, work and retirement model to breaking point, and what this means for individuals and organisations.

In this episode, David and Lynda discuss:

• The eight threads Lynda believes can help us build resilient and fulfilling working lives, and why calm is becoming increasingly important
• Why “amplification”, our relationship with technology and AI, is one of the eight threads we need to manage deliberately
• How AI is reshaping work at the level of tasks, and what that means for the careers we build
• Why career architectures, mobility and development models designed for shorter, more predictable working lives need to evolve
• How organisations can help people navigate repeated transitions across careers that could span 50 or 60 years

Ultimately, this is a conversation about longevity, technology and human agency, and how individuals and organisations can make the extra years we have been given count.

This episode is sponsored by HiBob.

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Living the 100-year old Life: How to build a career that lasts and a life you love

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Should workforce transformation belong to HR? Bettina Dietsche, Group Chief People and Culture Officer at Allianz, doesn't think so.

Bettina leads the people agenda for around 156,000 employees at Allianz. She came to HR after 25 years in IT and digital transformation, picking up the people function while serving as COO of Allianz Commercial during a company turnaround. That background shapes her view that HR's job is to challenge and push transformation onto the business agenda - not to own it.

In this episode, David and Bettina discuss:

• Why she believes HR should challenge and nudge workforce transformation, while ownership sits with the business
• How 25 years leading IT and digital transformation, including a COO turnaround, shaped her approach to the CPO role
• Why she runs regular sessions with more than 60 CEOs across Allianz, and what that partnership actually looks like in practice
• Her test for a healthy culture - what people do when no one's watching - and why she calls culture "the hardest currency"
• How Allianz builds daily AI habits into leadership, from "AI gem sessions" to asking each morning what AI can help with first
• Why she sees AI creating as many new early-career roles as it displaces, and how Allianz is reshaping graduate hiring around that

This episode is sponsored by Valence.

Nadia, Valence's AI coaching platform, connects talent strategy to the work employees are actually doing — offering coaching from the frontline to the boardroom, and surfacing organisational insights that weren't visible before.

As the most widely deployed coach in the Fortune 500, Nadia is already helping global leaders like Nestlé, Delta, CVS, and Kraft Heinz transform talent at scale.

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Do you know which of your people are wired to thrive in chaos, and which ones need certainty to do their best work?

In this episode, David is joined by Mike Flannagan, Corporate Vice President, Customer & Commercial Success at Microsoft, and Paul Burgess, founder of Instinctive Drives, to explore Microsoft's recent partnership with Instinctive Drives and what it reveals about the human side of AI transformation. Together they unpack why the biggest barrier to AI adoption isn't the technology itself, but the mismatch between people's natural instincts and the roles they're being asked to play.

Join the dynamic trio as they discuss:

• Why AI adoption is a people transformation
• How the Instinctive Drives framework explains why people react so differently to change
• What happens when the wrong people get pushed into high-experimentation, high-failure roles
• Why psychological safety is the real prerequisite for AI adoption at scale
• How a shared language around instincts can rebuild trust and speed up team performance

Listeners can try their own Instinctive Drives assessment for free for a limited time (expires 31st of October 2026) - the link is in the show notes below.

This episode is sponsored by Instinctive Drives.

As organisations invest heavily in AI, the people expected to deliver are often overwhelmed and working against their own natural wiring. Instinctive Drives' science-backed methodology reveals how each person is wired to work - which is why Microsoft chose them as their strategic partner for enterprise AI adoption worldwide.

Try your own Instinctive Drives assessment for free at instinctivedrives.com/digitalhrleaders - available until 31 October 2026.

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Instinctive Drives assessment - available until 31 October 2026

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