What happens when a biblical scholar with degrees from Oxford and Exeter decides to take on misinformation where it lives... on TikTok? Dr. Dan McClellan has built a following of nearly one million people by doing something radical: telling the truth about what the Bible actually says. In this conversation, Dr. McClellan takes us on his journey from serving as an LDS missionary in Uruguay, to getting kicked out of college, to earning his PhD and becoming one of the most recognized voices in public biblical scholarship. His motto is "data over dogma," and he's not afraid to challenge the assumptions that have shaped how Christians read Scripture for centuries.

This episode goes deep. We explore Dr. McClellan's argument that "the Bible doesn't say anything" on its own, and why that statement isn't an attack on faith but an invitation to read more honestly. We dig into what the Bible actually says about same-sex relationships (hint: the ancient world had no concept of sexual orientation), and we unpack what Scripture really teaches about hell and eternal punishment. If you've ever been told "the Bible clearly says" something and felt like there had to be more to the story, this conversation is for you.

In this episode you will learn:

- Why Dr. McClellan says "the Bible doesn't say anything" and what that means for how we interpret Scripture
- The difference between how scholars study the Bible and how it's taught in most churches
- What the concept of "univocality" is and why it's the foundation of most biblical misinformation
- What Leviticus and the New Testament actually say about same-sex intercourse in their ancient context
- Why the ancient world had no concept of homosexuality as a sexual orientation
- The three different views of hell found in the New Testament (annihilation, temporary punishment, eternal torment)
- Why eternal conscious torment became the dominant view and what the Bible actually indicates
- How Dr. McClellan balances scholarship and faith without needing to "deconstruct"

Connect with Dr. Dan McClellan:
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@maklelan
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/maklelan
Podcast: Data Over Dogma- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/data-over-dogma/id1681418502
Book: The Bible Says So: What We Get Right (and Wrong) About Scripture's Most Controversial Issues — https://a.co/d/fJuNxi0
Website and Online Classes: maklelan.org
Patreon: patreon.com/maklelan

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Everything we thought we knew about women in the Bible was shaped by centuries of erasure. In this groundbreaking episode, I sit down with Professor Tal Ilan, one of the world's leading historians on Jewish women in late antiquity, to uncover the real lives of women in the first century. From synagogue leaders to economic powerhouses, from temple participation to early Christian leadership, Prof. Ilan reveals the evidence that's been hiding in plain sight. Her research in the Lexicon of Jewish Names and the Feminist Commentary on the Babylonian Talmud Project has reshaped how scholars understand women's roles in ancient Judaism, and this conversation will transform how you read the New Testament.

This isn't just history. This is about recovering the stories that were written out of Scripture and discovering what happens when we put them back in. Prof. Ilan walks us through inscriptions, archaeological evidence, and ancient texts that prove Jewish women held far more agency, influence, and leadership than we've been taught. And when we apply that context to figures like Mary Magdalene, Phoebe, Priscilla, and Junia, the New Testament comes alive in ways you've never seen before.

In this episode you will learn:

- Why 70% of the "silent, secluded woman" image is historically accurate, but the 30% that isn't changes everything
- The archaeological evidence of women as synagogue leaders, donors, and patrons throughout the ancient Jewish world
- How women participated in temple festivals, sacred spaces, and religious life in ways that contradict common assumptions
- Why Mary Magdalene may actually be the founder of Christianity based on her role in the resurrection narrative
- The truth about female apostles like Junia, Phoebe, and Priscilla and what their leadership tells us about early Christianity
- How the destruction of the temple actually reduced women's religious participation compared to earlier periods
- Why Paul's list of resurrection witnesses deliberately excluded women, and what that reveals about early Christian politics
- The connection between Jesus's inclusive ministry and the women who became his closest followers
- How rabbinic Judaism developed partly in response to Christianity's "New Testament" model
- What modern Christians are missing when they read the Bible without understanding first-century Jewish women's real lives

Connect with Prof. Tal Ilan:

Prof. Ilan's groundbreaking work includes:

The Lexicon of Jewish Names in Late Antiquity

Integrating Women into Second Temple History

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Mary is the best known, least known woman in history. Billions recognize her name, yet the actual Jewish woman behind the icons has been almost completely erased. In this powerful conversation, Dr. James Tabor, Distinguished Fellow at Hebrew University and two-time New York Times bestselling author, reveals what 20 years of research, archaeology, and critical scholarship have uncovered about the real Mary. What emerges is not the passive, silent figure of tradition, but a revolutionary Jewish matriarch who shaped the teachings of Jesus, ran the headquarters of the early movement from Mount Zion, and whose voice we still hear in the Beatitudes.

Dr. Tabor takes us into the violent, politically charged world Mary lived through: mass crucifixions in the Galilee, Herod murdering his own family, and the constant threat facing anyone with Davidic lineage. He reveals the urban setting most people miss (Sepphoris, a major city just four miles from Nazareth), makes the case that Luke's genealogy is actually Mary's lineage showing she was "doubly royal" (descended from both King David and the priestly line of Aaron), and addresses the question most scholars avoid: the mysterious name Pantera that appears in early Jewish sources. This is history that will reshape how you understand Christianity's origins.

In this episode you will learn:

- Why Mary is the "most erased" woman in history and how it happened deliberately
- The shocking urban context of Jesus's upbringing (Sepphoris was a major city of 30,000 people just 4 miles from Nazareth)
- How Mary likely witnessed the mass crucifixions and burning of Sepphoris when Jesus was an infant
- The case for James (not John) being the "beloved disciple" at the cross
- Why the brothers and sisters of Jesus are real biological siblings, not stepchildren or cousins
- The evidence that Luke's genealogy is actually Mary's lineage, making her "doubly royal"
- What early Jewish sources in Sepphoris actually say about "Yeshua ben Pantera" (and why it's not an insult)
- How Mary functioned as the matriarch who shaped Jesus's nonviolent, revolutionary teachings
- The connection between Isaiah 11, Mary's vision, and Jesus's Beatitudes
- Why three of Mary's sons (Jesus, James, and Simon) were murdered because of their lineage

Get Dr. Tabor's new book "The Lost Mary: Rediscovering the Mother of Jesus"

More from Dr. James Tabor:
Blog: https://jamestabor.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JamesTaborVideos
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jamesdtabor

Also check out Dr. Tabor's bestsellers:

"The Jesus Dynasty"

"Paul and Jesus: How the Apostle Transformed Christianity"


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