Did Passive Investing Kill The Active Star? Hall of Famer David Pace on Why Low Cost Isn't What You Think It Is
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Rob Pizzichetta, Founder of Mont Wealth, interviews David Pace, founder of Greencape (2006) and the first Melbourne inductee into the Funds Management Hall of Fame, about his career from KPMG to Merrill/BlackRock and the frustrations with bureaucracy that led him to build a boutique focused on investing, alignment, and culture, including outsourcing operations to Challenger and transparent profit sharing. Pace argues passive growth and benchmarking incentives (including APRA’s underperformance rule) drive risk aversion and large opportunity costs, making this a compelling time for quality active managers who can exploit widening gaps between price and fundamental value. He outlines what to look for in active managers (investment in research travel, performance fees, succession, and conviction), discusses the importance of strong investor relations, and reflects on Australia’s outlook and AI’s labor implications. He also shares his post-retirement activities in music, volunteering, and mentoring.
00:00 Hall of Fame Intro
01:22 Career Origins and KPMG
02:53 Why Greencape Started
04:39 Building Culture and Structure
08:10 Active Versus Passive Shift
12:38 Time Horizon and Performance Pressure
13:52 APRA Rules and Incentives
17:00 What Makes Great Active
19:47 Fees Inhouse and Marketing
22:03 Core Satellite Portfolios
23:02 Conviction Through Drawdowns
24:00 Investor Relations Matters
27:49 Shareholder Advocacy Role
29:15 Passive Versus Active Debate
30:31 Super Funds And MER Trap
33:33 Australia Outlook And AI
36:27 Passive Capital Misallocation
38:09 Bubbles And Valuation Hype
40:42 Life After Retirement
42:43 Final Thanks And Wrap