In Episode 135 of the Dutch Kubernetes Podcast, Ronald Kers and Jan Stomphorst sit down with Mohamed Nasser, CEO of VEXXHOST and OpenInfra Foundation board member, together with Thierry Carrez, General Manager of the OpenInfra Foundation and Linux Foundation Europe. The conversation explores the growing relevance of OpenStack in a world increasingly focused on digital sovereignty, private cloud, AI workloads, and secure infrastructure.

The episode dives into how the industry shifted from private infrastructure toward hyperscalers between 2016 and 2020, and why many organizations are now reconsidering that strategy. Thierry explains how geopolitical tensions, vendor lock-in, and changing licensing models have renewed interest in sovereign cloud solutions powered by open source technologies like OpenStack.

Mohamed and Thierry discuss why OpenStack is still highly relevant at massive scale, especially for organizations requiring multi-tenancy, hardware abstraction, GPU enablement, HPC workloads, and advanced networking performance. They explain how Kubernetes has become the user-facing interface, while OpenStack increasingly operates invisibly underneath many modern platforms. Examples discussed include rail infrastructure, gaming companies, telecom providers, and even government environments.

The discussion also explores how Kubernetes and OpenStack complement each other instead of competing. Mohamed explains how many providers now run OpenStack itself on Kubernetes, leveraging cloud-native tooling such as Prometheus and Loki to simplify operations and observability. The hosts also discuss storage abstraction, CSI drivers, bare-metal provisioning with Ironic, and why virtualization still offers major operational advantages in large-scale Kubernetes environments.

Towards the end of the episode, the conversation shifts toward the future of open infrastructure, including confidential computing, Kata Containers, AI security, GPU orchestration, and the growing collaboration between the Linux Foundation, CNCF, and OpenInfra Foundation. Thierry highlights how secure container isolation and confidential computing are becoming increasingly important as AI workloads spread across Kubernetes platforms.

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In episode 134, Ronald and Jan reconnect with Carl Moberg from Avassa, live from KubeCon Amsterdam, nearly two years after their first spontaneous conversation about edge computing.

Since that first meeting, the edge landscape has evolved rapidly. What was once a niche topic has now become a serious focus area for industries ranging from retail and manufacturing to telecom and AI-driven infrastructure.

Carl shares how organizations are increasingly moving workloads closer to where data is created, whether that is inside factories, retail stores, industrial environments or remote edge locations. The discussion explores the differences between IoT, edge and far edge computing, and why these environments introduce unique operational and security challenges.

A major theme throughout the episode is the role of Kubernetes at the edge. While Kubernetes remains a powerful platform, Carl explains why it is not always the most practical solution for highly distributed or resource-constrained environments. The real challenge is often not starting containers, but everything around them: observability, secrets management, lifecycle management, networking, upgrades and reliability at scale.

The conversation also connects naturally to the previous episode with Neil Cresswell from Portainer. Both episodes explore the same core question from different perspectives:

How do you reliably run modern applications across thousands of edge locations?

An in-depth discussion about containers, operational complexity, AI at the edge, industrial automation and the future of distributed application platforms.

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In this episode, Ronald and Jan talk with Neil Cresswell, CEO, CTO, and co-founder of Portainer. Neil shares how Portainer started as a simple Docker UI and evolved into a platform for managing Docker, Podman, and Kubernetes environments at scale.

A key topic in this episode is Kube Solo, a lightweight Kubernetes distribution that can run on roughly 200 MB of RAM. The goal is to make Kubernetes usable in environments where traditional clusters are too heavy, such as IoT, edge, and far edge use cases. Think of AI-powered cameras, self-checkout systems, Nvidia Jetsons, and even tractors running intelligent workloads.

Neil explains that Kubernetes itself isn’t getting simpler, but it does need to become more intuitive. Portainer aims to make Kubernetes accessible to IT generalists, reducing the need for highly specialized teams while still leveraging the full power of the ecosystem.

This episode explores simplicity, scalability, edge computing, and what it takes to bring Kubernetes everywhere.

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