What would you choose — 18 years of an unhappy marriage or a happy open relationship? We asked. Nobody was ready for the answers.

In this episode of Words of Encouragement Podcast, host Frankie Lubin (Mr. Made Different) sits down with business coach and Podcast Summit founder David Shannon and co-host Alexis Gillespie to have the real conversations about marriage, open relationships, soul ties, and why happiness might be the idol destroying your life.

Topics covered:
→ The K. Michelle controversy: Can a woman be okay with her husband cheating?
→ The double standard between K. Michelle and the Diddy/Cassie situation
→ Would you rather: 18 years unhappy OR a happy open relationship?
→ Why every life coach (including us) is a hypocrite
→ Soul ties and the spiritual cost of an open relationship
→ Frankie's testimony: From cocaine in a hotel room to a God encounter
→ Why happiness is an idol — and what to chase instead
→ How transformation works even when you don't stay for it
→ What it actually means to keep God at the center of your marriage

This episode is raw, real, and faith-anchored. Whether you're married, dating, or figuring yourself out — this conversation is for you.


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