On a quiet Monday morning in January 1979, shots rang out from a house across the street from Grover Cleveland Elementary School in San Diego. The shooter was 16-year-old Brenda Spencer, armed with a rifle her father had given her for Christmas. By the time the chaos ended, the principal and a custodian were dead, and eight children and a police officer were wounded.

When asked why she did it, Brenda chillingly replied, "I don't like Mondays. This livens up the day." That haunting statement soon echoed around the world—not just in news reports, but in a song. Irish rock band The Boomtown Rats, fronted by Bob Geldof, were so disturbed by the story that they wrote "I Don’t Like Mondays," a hit that captured the senselessness and tragedy of the attack.

In this episode, we explore Brenda Spencer’s life leading up to the shooting, the events of that morning, and how a mass shooting at a school helped give rise to one of the most haunting pop songs of the era.

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As a train traveled from Phoenix to Los Angeles, staff grew uneasy. A foul smell was coming from two trunks belonging to a young female passenger. That unease turned to horror when they noticed blood seeping from the cracks. Hoping it was something as simple as spoiled meat, they alerted police to inspect the trunks upon arrival.

At the station, officers stopped the petite woman walking away from the luggage—her name was Winnie Ruth Judd. When asked about the trunks, she claimed her husband had the keys... then dropped them and ran. Inside were the bodies of her two closest friends, Agnes Anne LeRoi and Hedvig "Sammy" Samuelson. How did they end up dismembered and hidden in trunks, traveling by train with the woman they once trusted? And where did Ruth go? This chilling case captivated the nation and even inspired an all-puppet film, Murderess: The Winnie Ruth Judd Story, written and directed by Scott Coblio. Join us as we unpack the bizarre, bloody mystery of the “Trunk Murders.”

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In this episode, we delve into one of South Korea’s most infamous unsolved mysteries: the Frog Boys Murders. What began as a simple day of adventure for five young boys on March 26, 1991, turned into a decades-long nightmare filled with unanswered questions, police missteps, and lingering grief.

The boys—aged 9 to 13—left their homes in Daegu, South Korea, to search for salamander eggs on the slopes of Mt. Waryong. But they never returned. What followed was a desperate and highly publicized search, with the entire country gripped by their mysterious disappearance.

For 11 years, their fate remained unknown until 2002, when their skeletal remains were discovered in a remote area of the mountain. Initial reports suggested they may have died from exposure, but forensic examinations indicated blunt force trauma to their skulls, pointing toward foul play.

We explore the botched investigation, theories surrounding their deaths—including speculation about a possible military cover-up—and the lasting impact on South Korean society. From grieving families demanding justice to the chilling possibility that their killer (or killers) may still be out there, this case remains one of South Korea’s most haunting mysteries.

Join us as we dissect the evidence, examine the theories, and reflect on the heartbreaking legacy of the Frog Boys Murders.

Sources:

“In 1991 Five Boys Went Searching for Frogs. Their Bodies Were Discovered 11 Years Later.” Mamamia, 26 Aug. 2019, www.mamamia.com.au/frog-boys/.

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“KSIS : What Happened to the Frog Boys?” KSTATION TV, 13 Nov. 2024, kstationtv.com/2024/11/13/ksis-what-happened-to-the-frog-boys/?lang=en. Accessed 22 Feb. 2025.

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In January 2024, 13-year-old Na'Ziyah Harris vanished after stepping off her school bus in Detroit, Michigan. What started as a desperate search for a missing child soon unraveled into a chilling tale of grooming, betrayal, and heartbreak. Na'Ziyah should be living the last precious years of her girlhood—hanging out with friends, focusing on schoolwork, and dreaming of her future. Instead, her life was cruelly cut short. Her body remains unfound, and the man she once called her "uncle" now stands trial for her murder.

In this podcast, we dive into the devastating details surrounding Na'Ziyah's life, the events that led to her disappearance, and the ongoing fight for justice. Na’Ziyah’s story is a harrowing reminder of the vulnerabilities faced by so many young girls and the urgent need for change and protection.

Sources:

Buczek, Joseph, and Jack Springgate. “Detroit Man Charged over Missing 13-Year-Old Na’Ziyah Harris Appears in Court.” Cbsnews.com, CBS Detroit, 17 Jan. 2025, www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/naziyah-harris-murder-detroit-man-charged-court-appearance/.

COURT TV. “Man Charged with Impregnating, Murdering 13-Year-Old Na’Ziyah Harris.” YouTube, 30 Sept. 2024, www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwScFzQq0Xg. Accessed 26 Jan. 2025.

Detroit, FOX 2. “Missing Na’Ziyah Harris: Suspect’s Search History, How Police Found His Phone.” FOX 2 Detroit, 8 Jan. 2025, www.fox2detroit.com/news/missing-naziyah-harris-more-witnesses-testify-against-murder-suspect-jarvis-butts. Accessed 28 Jan. 2025.

Foster, Wells. “Accused Detroit Serial Child Abuser Will Stand Trial for Murder.” Https://Www.wilx.com, WILX, 9 Jan. 2025, www.wilx.com/2025/01/09/accused-detroit-serial-child-abuser-will-stand-trial-murder/. Accessed 28 Jan. 2025.

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Sayles, Samantha. “Key Takeaways from Preliminary Hearing in Murder Case of Na’Ziyah Harris.” WDIV, WDIV ClickOnDetroit, 16 Jan. 2025, www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2025/01/17/naziyah-harris-murder-case-disturbing-texts-search-history-read-aloud-in-court/.

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Sayles, Samantha, and Dane Kelly. “Breaking down Charges “Groomer, Pedophile” Faces in Death of Detroit Girl, Additional Victims.” WDIV, WDIV ClickOnDetroit, 27 Sept. 2024, www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2024/09/27/breaking-down-charges-groomer-pedophile-faces-in-death-of-detroit-girl-additional-victims-2/.

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In May 2004 Oakey Albert “Al” Kite was found hog-tied and tortured to death in his basement after he didn’t show up for work. Al’s murder is one of the most mysterious we have covered because investigators still don’t know who perpetrated the crime, and there is no discernible motive other than a sick urge to torture and kill. The investigation has uncovered a lot of information, but not quite enough to tie everything together. Whoever killed Al went by the alias Robert Cooper and found him via an ad Al had placed looking for someone to rent his basement. After the murder, many witnesses came forward to tell police that Robert Cooper had also met with them regarding property they were trying to rent out. The strange thing is that each witness met a slightly different version of Robert, as it appeared he was tweaking different characteristics to conceal his identity. But why? And why did the killer choose Al specifically? We cover the case from start to finish and discuss all of the theories surrounding it in this week’s episode.

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Four Finnish teenagers, Maila Irmeli Björklund, Anja Tuulikki, Seppo Antero Boisman, and Nils Wilhelm Gustaffson set out to have a fun night camping on the shores of Lake Bodom. It was like a double date since Maila was dating Nils and Anja was dating Seppo. They fished, drank, and swam in the lake before heading to bed in the single tent they brought to share. The next day a man, out for his morning jog, came upon the teens and their tent, which was shredded, tattered, and collapsed. And three of the four were dead, while the fourth was severely injured but alive. The investigation lead police to several suspects but ultimately the case was never solved. Without a conclusion or any justice, the case grew into a sort of Finnish boogeyman that still haunts the country to this day. In 2016 the movie Lake Bodom was created. It took inspiration from the real case to spin up a story about a group of friends that go camping on the shores of Lake Bodom. Unfortunately, the trip is plagued by secrets and manipulation, and it doesn’t end well.

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Kaminski, Julia. “The Real Unsolved Murders of Lake Bodom.” SCREAMFEST, 18 May 2017, screamfestla.com/blog/real-unsolved-murders-lake-bodom.

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Silence of the Lambs is arguably one of the best psychological thrillers of all time and sadly many aspects of the movie are inspired by real people and events. Buffalo Bill in particular is based on a few different serial killers including Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Gary Heidnik. Most people are familiar with Bundy and Dahmer, but Heidnik's crimes haven't received the same amount of attention. In this episode we discuss Heidnik's life and crimes, as well as the lives of his victims. We talk at length about what he did, why he did it, and how his victims were let down by the justice system too many times. He was a sadistic man who brutally tortured his victims, so please listen with caution.

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Karimi, Faith. “His Gruesome Crimes Were a Basis for “Silence of the Lambs.” the Sister of One of His Victims Has Mixed Feelings about His Execution.” CNN, 19 Mar. 2023, www.cnn.com/2023/03/19/us/gary-heidnik-pennsylvania-death-penalty-cec/index.html.

Oliver, Mark. “Serial Killer Gary Heidnik: The Real-Life Buffalo Bill Who Fed One of His Victims to His Prisoners.” All That’s Interesting, All That’s Interesting, 24 Jan. 2019, allthatsinteresting.com/gary-heidnik.

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A group of hikers was traveling down a logging road on their way to a rentable hut, located in the remote Canadian wilderness, when they stumbled upon a burnt truck with personal belongings scattered around it. Feeling as though they had discovered a crime scene, the hikers decided to take pictures before turning back, calling police as they drove. It took RCMP Officers two days to get to the scene and they noticed that things had been moved since the hikers had been there. They found that the truck belonged to a man named Marshall Iwaasa, who was nowhere to be found. His family told police that the last time they saw him was six days before his car was found at the end of the logging road. They told officers that on that night he had driven two hours from his house to his mom’s house in order to help her with something. He didn’t stay for too long and he told his mom that he planned to stop at his local storage unit before driving back to his place. He never mentioned plans to drive FOURTEEN HOURS to Pemberton, British Columbia. So how did his truck get there? And why? Nobody knows and he has not been seen since. As if the case wasn’t strange enough, evidence was uncovered that linked Marshall’s disappearance to another man, named Daniel Reoch… who had also gone missing. Despite the bizarre circumstances, the RCMP stated they do not believe any foul play occurred.

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Barely Sociable. “The Pemberton Incident - an Unsolved Mystery.” YouTube, 30 Oct. 2023, www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yueni460aM. Accessed 10 Sept. 2024.

Thuncher, Jennifer. “Squamish Vigil Aims to Keep Daniel Reoch’s Memory Alive.” Squamish Chief, Squamish Chief, 27 Nov. 2023, www.squamishchief.com/local-news/nov-26-squamish-vigil-aims-to-keep-daniel-reochs-memory-alive-7837653. Accessed 10 Sept. 2024.

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