EPISODE SUMMARY In this powerful episode, Vanessa Reiser welcomes forensic psychologist Dr. Catherine "Cathy" Barrett, who specializes in narcissistic abuse recovery, coercive control, CPTSD, intimate partner violence, and family-court matters including custody disputes and expert testimony. Dr. Barrett shares her journey from working at a women's shelter and the LA LGBT Center to forensic work with offenders, and how her own experience in a narcissistic relationship shaped her advocacy and teaching. Together they explore overt vs. covert narcissism, boundary-pushing, trusting gut instincts, and the empowering role of "righteous anger," referencing Gavin de Becker's The Gift of Fear. The conversation also expands to politics as systemic coercive control, the Epstein files and widespread sexual exploitation, and what may cause cult-like followers to "wake up," including personal economic impact and humiliation. Dr. Barrett discusses her upcoming book to help clinicians navigate law, ethics, and documentation in coercive-control cases.

KEY TOPICS DISCUSSED Her Path Into Forensics Therapists Get Targeted Covert Narcissists Explained Trust Your Gut Instincts Anger As Empowerment and Righteous Anger Politics and Mental Health Epstein Files and Power Structures America Under Coercion Cult Wake Up Glitch Quirky Questions and Climbing

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Show Introduction 01:17 - Meet Dr. Catherine Barrett 05:04 - Her Path Into Forensics 09:49 - Therapists Get Targeted 13:37 - Covert Narcissists Explained 14:44 - Trust Your Gut 18:29 - Anger As Empowerment 23:48 - Politics And Mental Health 27:34 - Epstein Files And Power 33:54 - America Under Coercion 42:10 - Cult Wake Up Glitch 45:39 - Quirky Questions And Climbing 48:59 - Where To Find Dr. Barrett 50:33 - Closing And Resources

CONTENT WARNINGS This episode contains discussions of: Narcissistic abuse, coercive control, intimate partner violence, CPTSD, family court matters, sexual exploitation, and systemic power dynamics.

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Disclaimer: This podcast is for mature audiences and is not a substitute for therapy, legal, or medical advice. Guest opinions are their own and don't necessarily reflect those of the host or affiliated platforms. Produced by Vanessa Reiser and music by Alex Productions "Once Upon a Time".

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