What makes a society peaceful? And how can studying peace help us build a safer world? In episode 58 of NATO DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan M. Gohel is joined by Steve Killelea, Founder and Executive Chairman of the Institute for Economics and Peace (IEP), to explore the global dynamics shaping peace, conflict, and security in 2025 and beyond.

Drawing on IEP’s pioneering research, Steve explains why understanding what makes societies peaceful is essential to breaking cycles of violence. This includes the impact of the IEP's Global Terrorism Index.

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The 2026 FIFA World Cup will bring teams and fans from around the globe to North America - and with them, a range of potential security challenges. In episode 57 of NATO DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan Gohel speaks with Sasha Larkin, Director of Intelligence and C4 Operations for the tournament, to explore how security planning is unfolding for the world's largest sporting event. They also discuss her experience as Assistant Sheriff in Las Vegas, tackling terrorism, organised crime, and active shooter incidents, and how her community-first approach strengthens resilience at every level.

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The fate of Ukraine has global ramifications. In episode 56 of NATO DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan Gohel is joined by Lieutenant Colonel (R) Alexander Vindman to assess Ukraine’s war effort and why it needs to be supported and sustained. They also discuss the Kremlin’s surprise reshuffle and Russia’s expanding agenda across Europe and Asia.

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