Talia and Emma make a podcast about their podcast. They discuss the trials and triumphs of season one, talk about the planning and production process, answer listener questions, and go over future plans for season two.

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For the season one finale, Talia and Emma are joined by a very special guest: Julia Serano, transfeminist and author of Whipping Girl! They discuss the pervasive problem of orientalism and transmisogyny in academic disciplines, the history of discomfort with trans healthcare being laundered through pseudointellectual rationalisation, and the recurrent discourses that have tried to pit conformist "transsexuals" against radical "transgenders".

Sources:

Serena Nanda, Neither Man Nor Woman, 1990

Serena Nanda, Gender Diversity, 2000

Julia Serano, Whipping Girl, 2007

Talia Bhatt, Trans/Rad/Fem, 2025

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Talia locks Emma and Beth (she/her) into a call so she can ramble at them about lesbian feminism and feminist history for hours (again). She goes over the history of Michfest, the sin for which all lesbians must now answer, whether or not we attended the bloody thing or were even in the US while it was happening. In discussing the transfem-exclusionary policy of only admitting "womyn born womyn", the three of them reckon with the politics of separatism, class, race, and why it's important to not fuck the people you're protesting against.

Sources:

Michelle Tea, Transmissions from Camp Trans

Minnie Bruce Pratt, S/He

Jocelyn Macdonald, Setting the Record Straight About MichFest

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