In this reflective finale of Courageous Conversations, host Paul Tripp closes out season one with gratitude and insight. Revisiting moments of bravery from leaders, creators, and everyday people, he reminds us that courage isn’t the absence of fear—it’s showing up anyway. As Paul looks ahead to season two, he challenges listeners to begin the conversations they’ve been postponing, reminding us that courage lives in the moments we choose to speak with honesty and heart.

What does it take to leave one of the top HR roles in the world—and do it with clarity, humility, and zero regret? In this reflective episode of Courageous Conversations, we sit down with Stephane Charbonnier, former CHRO of L’Oréal USA, to explore how legacy is shaped not just by what you build, but by how you pass it on.

Stephane shares how he planned his retirement years in advance, mentored his successor with purpose, and embraced the next chapter of life with intention. From his “4 Fs” framework for fulfillment to the mindset shift that helped him let go of ego and title, this conversation is a masterclass in finishing strong and stepping forward with grace.

This episode is a powerful reminder that legacy isn’t a moment. It’s a mindset. And it starts long before the end.

This episode is brought to you by AceUp.

What does it take to lead with high expectations while holding space for empathy, creativity, and grace? In this thought-provoking episode of Courageous Conversations, we sit down with Adrian Piro—CEO of Creative Market, a leader who has carved her path through male-dominated industries by blending rigor with compassion and redefining what strong leadership looks like.

Adrian shares how her multicultural upbringing shaped her values, how she’s learned to challenge perfectionism without lowering the bar, and how becoming a mother reframed her view of leadership. From navigating toxic workplaces to building inclusive teams that thrive on trust and accountability, Adrian’s journey offers a refreshing blueprint for authentic leadership in today’s complex world.

This episode is an honest exploration of trusting your instincts, giving grace without losing your edge, and leading teams with both heart and ambition.

This episode is brought to you by AceUp and Produced and Edited by Buttered Toast.