Kaddu Sebunya, CEO of the African Wildlife Foundation, joins Salzburg Global President & CEO Martin Weiss to challenge how the world thinks about conservation. For decades, global efforts have focused on protecting wildlife from people — but Kaddu argues that the future of conservation depends on putting people at the centre.

In this powerful and thought-provoking conversation, Kaddu shares how African-led, people-centred approaches are transforming communities, driving economic opportunity, and redefining the global sustainability agenda. From mountain gorillas in Rwanda to youth movements across the continent, he makes a bold case: the future of the planet depends on Africa.

Why traditional conservation models — rooted in colonial history — have failed African communities

How centering people, livelihoods, and local economies leads to more sustainable conservation outcomes

The success story of Rwanda’s community-owned luxury lodges and mountain gorilla conservation

The crucial role of Africa’s youth in shaping the continent’s political, economic, and environmental future

Why the global fight against climate change cannot succeed without Africa

How Europe and Africa can move beyond aid toward equitable trade, investment, and shared innovation

The mindset shift Kaddu believes is needed: from protecting Africa to partnering with Africa

Chapters:

00:00 The Need for a People-Centered Approach to Conservation

10:12 Rethinking Conservation Economics

20:11 The Role of Youth in Africa's Future

26:07 Optimism and Opportunities in Africa's Development

Takeaway:

Conservation isn’t about protecting animals from people — it’s about empowering people to live with and benefit from wildlife. To secure a sustainable future, the world must change the conversation and recognise Africa’s central role in global survival.

About Kaddu Sebunya:

Kaddu Sebunya is the Chief Executive Officer of African Wildlife Foundation (AWF). He has over 25 years’ experience in conservation at grassroots, national and regional levels in the USA, Africa, and Europe, and is now responsible for driving AWF’s long term-strategy.

Kaddu has worked with Oxfam UK, the World Conservation Union - IUCN, USA Peace Corps, Conservation International, and Solimar International.

He believes conserving Africa’s wildlife is too important and too urgent to be left to the West alone. He is concerned that big African voices leading the fight against the destruction of habitat and wildlife today are few, arguing that it is time the African elite step forward.

Working with leaders in business, politics, civil society, policy, international development and education as well as the youth, Kaddu is building a global coalition for conservation to protect Africa’s natural capital for posterity. He sees conservation as a social, economic, security and health question requiring new partnerships and multi-sectoral strategies for the people and wildlife to benefit.

Kaddu is a member of the China-Africa Wildlife Conservation Council, a group of civil society and business leaders convened by AWF and the Aspen Institute to serve as a people-to-people platform for supporting China-Africa cooperation on wildlife and wildlands conservation, sustainable economic development, and governance. He is also a member of the Club of Rome and contributes frequently to newspapers in Africa, Europe and the USA.

Kaddu has a Bachelor’s degree in Social Sciences and two Master’s degrees: An MA in Law, Policy and Diplomacy from The Fletcher School, Tufts University, USA; and an MSc in Sustainable Resource Management and Policy (Imperial - Wye College, University of London).

Learn more about the African Wildlife Foundation: https://www.awf.org

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“We have to stop asking, ‘What does China want?’ and start reckoning with what it actually is.” — Kaiser Kuo

Salzburg Global’s podcast series Conversation Changers brings the spirit of dialogue, openness, and innovation that defines Salzburg Global to audiences worldwide. In each episode, leading thinkers and practitioners explore the forces reshaping our societies — and how we can engage with them to create a better, more inclusive future.

In this new episode, host Eric Olander speaks with Kaiser Kuo, host of The Sinica Podcast and Salzburg Global Fellow, to unpack one of the defining megatrends of our time: China’s transformation and its impact on global power dynamics.

From ration cards in the 1980s to high-speed trains and artificial intelligence breakthroughs, China’s evolution has been breathtaking — and polarizing. Together, Eric and Kaiser explore how perceptions of China have shifted over the decades, why global debates about its legitimacy and ambitions have hardened, and what this “Great Reckoning” means for the future of global order.

Kaiser argues that this is a civilizational turning point — a moment when the world must come to terms with a China that is no longer rising, but setting the pace.

“Modernity is no longer something the West owns. China has become one of its principal architects.” — Kaiser Kuo

In this episode you'll hear:

How China’s rapid transformation has reshaped society, technology, and prosperity

Why Western hopes that China would “become like us” were misplaced or misunderstood

The enduring divide between “dragon slayers” and “panda huggers” — and what it reveals about Western attitudes

How China’s model of modernization without Westernization inspires the Global South

The role of propaganda, social media, and “infrastructure porn” in shaping perceptions

Why generational shifts suggest a changing global view of China

Kaiser’s call to “stop asking what China wants” and start understanding it on its own terms

The episode underscores a vital idea: modernity is no longer a Western monopoly. Understanding China today means reckoning with a new global reality — one that demands humility, balance, and genuine dialogue.

Chapters:

00:00 China's Transformation: A Historical Perspective

05:10 Polarization in Global Discourse on China

10:01 Engagement vs. Isolation: The West's Approach to China

15:02 The Great Reckoning: Shifting Perspectives on China

19:59 Understanding Modernity: China’s Role in the 21st Century

About Kaiser Kuo

Kaiser Kuo is the host of The Sinica Podcast, a leading platform for nuanced conversations about China and the Chinese diaspora. A writer, musician, and longtime observer of China’s transformation, he has been at the heart of cross-cultural exchange for decades. Kaiser is also a Salzburg Global Fellow, bringing his deep insights on media, identity, and geopolitics to the Salzburg Global community.

Find out more about Kaiser Kuo and the Sinica Podcast here: https://www.sinicapodcast.com/

Follow Kaiser Kuo here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaiserkuo

Follow Eric Olander here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olander/

Find out more about Salzburg Global here: https://www.salzburgglobal.org

Salzburg Global’s podcast series Conversation Changers brings the spirit of dialogue, openness, and innovation that defines Salzburg Global to audiences worldwide. In each episode, leading thinkers and practitioners explore pressing global challenges — and how we can rethink them for a better future.

In this new episode, host Eric Olander speaks with Tina Purnat, a leading expert on health communication and the social dynamics of information, about the complex realities of navigating health information in today’s digital age. Together, they explore how misinformation spreads, how trust is built and eroded, and what it takes to restore confidence in health systems.

Purnat reflects on the shifting relationship between health authorities, media, and the public, and why trustworthiness — not just trust — lies at the heart of effective health communication. The discussion delves into the role of social media, the growing influence of health influencers, and the importance of cultural context in shaping how people interpret health messages.

What you’ll hear in this episode:

How the digital age has transformed the way people seek and believe health information

Why mistrust in institutions has become a public health challenge

The role of social media and influencers in shaping perceptions of health and science

How cultural context affects the success or failure of public health messaging

Why rebuilding trust begins with self-reflection and community engagement

The episode underscores a vital point: tackling misinformation isn’t just about correcting facts — it’s about reconnecting people, communities, and systems through dialogue and empathy.

Chapters:

00:00 The Erosion of Trust in Health Information

02:56 The Role of Social Media in Health Decisions

05:57 Healthcare Providers and Misinformation

09:10 Cultural Contexts in Health Communication

11:52 The Influence of Health Influencers

15:10 Navigating Health Information Chaos

17:56 Building Trust in Health Systems

About Tina Purnat:

Tina Purnat is a global health expert working at the intersection of data, technology, and policy. With over 20 years of experience—including leadership roles at the World Health Organization (WHO) and the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC)— she helps organizations navigate complex health systems and design smarter, evidence-based solutions.

Currently, Tina is Vice President of the Global Health section at the European Public Health Association (EUPHA), an Associate Editor for several peer-reviewed journals, and a Doctor of Public Health (DrPH) candidate at Harvard University. Her work spans pandemic preparedness, digital health, trustworthy AI standards and systems, and the intersection of digital society with public health. Tina uses innovative, systems-based approaches to help organizations and governments design resilient, ethical, and people-centered health responses in a rapidly changing world.

Follow Tina Purnat here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tinadpurnat

Follow Eric Olander here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olander/

Find out more about Salzburg Global at salzburgglobal.org