In this conversation, Sadie and Nadra Ahmed discuss the evolution of leadership in the care sector, focusing on the systemic changes needed to improve care delivery. Nadirah shares her journey into the care sector, highlighting the importance of recognising the skills of the workforce and the need for a fundamentally different approach to care. They explore the challenges faced by the workforce, the significance of valuing their contributions, and the necessity of involving those affected by care systems in decision-making processes. In this conversation, Nadra Ahmed CBE DL discusses the critical aspects of leadership in social care, emphasising the importance of consultation, understanding business pressures, and the human cost of underfunding. She highlights the ripple effect of care on communities and the significant role of unpaid carers. Nadra advocates for a vision of dignity and equity in care, urging leaders to navigate change collaboratively and value their workforce. The discussion also touches on personal experiences and the emotional challenges faced in the sector.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Leadership in Care

02:51 Nadra's Journey into Care

09:29 Recognizing Systemic Needs for Change

16:58 The Role of Workforce in Care

20:20 Valuing the Care Workforce

25:58 The Importance of Consultation in Care Systems

27:12 The Importance of Consultation in Leadership

29:38 Understanding Business Pressures in Care Services

31:35 The Human Cost of Underfunding

32:46 The Ripple Effect of Care

35:45 The Role of Unpaid Carers

37:33 The Value of Care and Its Impact on Society

38:12 The Human Side of Leadership

44:28 Lessons Learned from Difficult Decisions

46:20 Navigating Change in Social Care

48:00 A Vision for Dignity and Equity in Care