Making friends was easy as a kid — so why is it so hard as an adult, especially when you work from home and your closest daily "coworker" is an AI? Jesse and Josh debate whether small talk is pointless or secretly the doorway to real friendship, and kick off a new segment where Jesse actually goes out and tests friend-making tactics in the real world.

In this episode:

• Why friendship gets harder (and slower) as you get older
• The "friendship points" theory — why time spent matters more than what you do
• Small talk as a trap door into bigger conversations
• Remote work, AI, and modern loneliness
• Jesse's real-world experiments: coffee-shop reading, exercise groups & more

New segment coming: watch Jesse try these out — follow along and tell us which tactics we should rate.

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Samsung just opened pre-orders for the Galaxy Fold and Flip, and Jesse has an upgrade available — so naturally this turns into a 20-minute debate about whether a "free" $1,800 phone is actually free. Jesse and Josh break down how carrier device financing really works (the monthly bill credit shell game, the 24-month lock-in, and what happens if you leave T-Mobile early), why foldables might be the first genuinely different phone form factor in years, and whether on-device AI is finally a reason to upgrade.

Along the way: the pain of supporting mobile apps across every device generation, why PC gaming solved fragmentation and phones went the opposite direction, the Nothing Phone's US band problem, carrier coverage in rural areas, bundling home internet with your wireless plan, and a spirited defense of buying the Switch 2 for a slightly bigger screen.

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In this episode Josh and Jesse talk about getting back into reading after their earlier Seven Habits series and struggling to pick the next book. They discuss the polarizing reviews around the “Strange” books (including Strange Pictures and Strange Houses), why love-it-or-hate-it art can be more interesting than universally liked work, and how culture and translation shape storytelling, with examples from Japanese mysteries and The Three-Body Problem’s differing translations. They also share strategies for reading more consistently—setting aside 20 minutes a day, using phone readers, and replacing bedtime doom scrolling with a few pages—while noting how vivid imagination can make books feel like movies. They hope to both finish a book and return to discuss it.

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