Recorded live at Risk-!n Conference 2026, this episode of Risk Is Our Business features Aurore Chatard in a conversation about what it truly takes to build resilience in an increasingly complex and interconnected world.

Captain Michael Rasmussen and Aurore begin by discussing what keeps resilience leaders awake at night and why many organizations still struggle to move beyond a compliance-driven view of continuity and resilience. They unpack what bad resilience looks like, including programs that exist primarily to satisfy regulatory requirements, before exploring the characteristics of organizations that are genuinely prepared to adapt, respond, and recover.

A central theme of the discussion is orchestration. Michael and Aurore compare resilience to a symphony orchestra, where success depends not on individual performers but on how well people, processes, technologies, and leadership work together. Without coordination, even the most capable functions can fail when disruption strikes.

The conversation also explores the growing influence of regulations such as NIST and DORA, examining whether they help organizations become more resilient or risk turning resilience into another compliance exercise. Along the way, Aurore shares lessons learned from years spent leading security, continuity, and crisis management programs, offering practical insights for professionals looking to strengthen resilience capabilities within their own organizations.

They close by reflecting on Risk-!n Conference 2026 itself, discussing the growth of the event, the conversations shaping the future of the profession, and the increasing recognition that resilience is becoming a core business capability rather than a specialist discipline.