00:00 Introduction
02:20 Opening
06:17 We are all nuts
10:36 The sins others can't see are more dangerous
13:30 Living enslaved to Sin is standing on a cliff
17:39 We Can't Build Utopia
18:45 What we do has far more consequence than we realize
23:00 The Dream of The Enlightenment breeds cattle & monsters
25:27 Pursuit of Eutopia breeds Dystopia
28:45 A rabbit trail about our favorite fiction genres
32:47 Self delusion causes us to make the means The End
34:10 The Gerasene Demoniac & the pigs
36:07 Why can't people see the path of The Kingdom
43:55 Confession shatters self delusion
47:45 The divine revelation to The Apostles was unique
49:30 Humans tend to want kings, one way or another
50:50 Another rabbit trail about movies about The Bible
54:00 Closing

Human Persons Are Not Infinite - S7E18

We are nearing the end of season seven & Fr Symeon didn't want to miss the opportunity to talk about how the two dominant ideologies in our culture both rely on what we could call an unconstrained vision of humanity - the dream of The Enlightenment still alive.

In this second part of three, we delve into a bit more pop culture references than is typical for us, we both admit to a love of dystopian fiction & we also speak of the core mission of The Church to usher all of Creation into Paradise, not to amass warriors to create Utopia through Power.

Scripture citations for this episode:

Matthew 21:12-17, Mark 11:15-19, Luke 19:45-48, John 2:13-17 - Cleansing of the temple

Mark 5: 1-20 - Gerasene Demoniac

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00:00 Introduction
05:25 Competing ideologies
09:46 The fundamentals - vision of humanity
12:27 Are humans good or evil
16:20 Are people evil or deluded?
19:46 Can we agree on what good & evil are?
22:55 The sinless passions
25:29 Issues of identity
28:00 The Prince of Peace is Born!
31:44 Too much Emmanuel Kant
33:36 Christmas proclaims Love Incarnate
35:00 Genesis 3, The Lie is "Be Unconstrained"
38:12 Optimistic Christianity
40:30 The subtle lie of the brazen serpent
44:15 Christmas is the beginning of the end of Death
47:29 Closing

Human Persons Are Not Infinite - S7E17

We are nearing the end of season seven & Fr Symeon didn't want to miss the opportunity to talk about how the two dominant ideologies in our culture both rely on what we could call an unconstrained vision of humanity - the dream of The Enlightenment still alive. We are suggesting the journey on the way of the life of faithfulness to the evangelion of Jesus, The Christ requires us to accept we are created, finite beings & as a consequence we must have a constrained vision of humanity - the dream of The Enlightenment is not only dead, if it came true, we would become either monsters or animals.

Yes, there is a way in which our understanding theosis, divination, is a vision of an unconstrained humanity, we can become divine through grace! And the world's denial of this is a kind of constrained vision. Yes, we see this irony. But for the sake of the conversation, we're framing our thoughts as we outlined them above.

This conversation was quite long! So the production team has decided to cut it into three sections this time, not just two.

Scripture citations for this episode:

Matthew 21:12-17, Mark 11:15-19, Luke 19:45-48, John 2:13-17 - Cleansing of the temple

Mark 5: 1-20 - Gerasene Demoniac

The Christian Saints Podcast is a joint production of Generative sounds & Paradosis Pavilion with oversight from Fr Symeon Kees

Paradosis Pavilion - https://youtube.com/@paradosispavilion9555

https://www.instagram.com/christiansaintspodcast
https://twitter.com/podcast_saints
https://www.facebook.com/christiansaintspodcast
https://www.threads.net/@christiansaintspodcast

Iconographic images used by kind permission of Nicholas Papas, who controls distribution rights of these images

Prints of all of Nick’s work can be found at Saint Demetrius Press - http://www.saintdemetriuspress.com

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00:00 Intro/lead in from previous episode
02:49 Icon of The Nativity, concentric circles
09:05 She Isn't Looking At Her Baby?!
13:00 We Are Joseph, Trying to Understand
18:18 Everyone Has Doubts, We Can't Stay There
22:06 Joseph As Exemplar for Masculinity
29:29 There is Doubt & There is Doubt
33:31 Overcoming Sin Is Target Practice
35:50 Bethlehem is The Church
39:30 Wanting to Believe, Over Time, Changes Us
45:25 Who Is The Hairy Old Man?
48:01 When Jesus Talked to Job About Doubt
51:53 Listen to God, Not Lies
56:20 Peace on Earth, Goodwill to Mankind!
57:49 Is Mary Beckoning to Joseph?
62:03 Closing thoughts & outro

In this second half of our conversation with friend of the show, iconographer Nick Papas, we turn primarily to Christmas, while continuing to explore the relationship between the Old Testament icon of The Tree of Jesse & the icon of The Nativity of Our Lord God & Savior Jesus Christ.

If you would like access to the spreadsheet which details the relationship of the figures on the tree to Jesus or The Theotokos, please contact us so we can provide it to you.

Reference materials for this episode:
- Nick’s work
- https://www.saintdemetriuspress.com
- https://www.facebook.com/Nick.Papas.Studio

Scripture citations for this episode:
- Genesis 18: Sarah laughed
- Isaiah 11: The Peaceful Kingdom prophecy of The Messiah
- Luke 1: Zechariah doubts the birth of John & Mary is amazed at the birth of Jesus
- Luke 24: The Road to Emmaus
- Romans 15; references Isaiah 11

#advent #christmas #nativity #iconography

The Christian Saints Podcast is a joint production of Generative sounds & Paradosis Pavilion with oversight from Fr Symeon Kees

Paradosis Pavilion - https://youtube.com/@paradosispavilion9555

https://www.instagram.com/christiansaintspodcast
https://twitter.com/podcast_saints
https://www.facebook.com/christiansaintspodcast
https://www.threads.net/@christiansaintspodcast

Iconographic images used by kind permission of Nicholas Papas, who controls distribution rights of these images

Prints of all of Nick’s work can be found at Saint Demetrius Press - http://www.saintdemetriuspress.com

All music in these episodes is a production of Generative Sounds
https://generativesoundsjjm.bandcamp.com
Distribution rights of this episode & all music contained in it are controlled by Generative Sounds
Copyright 2021 - 2023