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Chris Werner on Why He Named His Firm After the Norse God of Vengeance,

Chris Werner on Why He Named His Firm After the Norse God of Vengeance,

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What happens when a litigator who spent his early years defending Fortune 100 companies in bet-the-company cases — taking the lead on a hundred depositions as a third and fourth year associate, getting pulled into environmental contamination lawsuits stretching from New York to the International Chamber of Commerce in the EU, and building healthcare tech compliance frameworks from first principles before telehealth was even a recognizable category — decides the most interesting thing he can do with 25 years of experience is spend it helping founders in AI, quantum cryptography, cannabis, blockchain, and other emerging technologies avoid the landmines he spent his early career watching companies step on? In this episode of the Trustcast Show, Zane Myers speaks with Chris Werner, founder of his firm in Chicago, about why he named the firm after the Norse god of vengeance — because lawyers don't have to be loved, they have to get results — what a fractional general counsel actually does day to day, and why five to ten hours per month is the rough threshold where a flat-rate arrangement starts making more sense than hourly billing. Chris explains why the stereotypical lawyer who says no to everything and treats every decision like the sky is falling is the opposite of what entrepreneurs need, what the single most dangerous contract clause for growing companies is — indemnification, almost always written so broadly that founders sign away millions in liability they can't even remember agreeing to — and why he has never once taken equity as compensation despite being offered it, because he never wants even the temptation of his interests diverging from his client's. They also discuss what it was like to build AI governance frameworks for companies before there was a federal regulatory scheme to follow, why he gives away checklists, worksheets, and intellectual property self-evaluation tools for free to founders who cannot yet afford counsel, how he went up against a team of partners from a major Boston law firm representing the investor on a fundraising round and found it genuinely fun, why he prefers working his way out of jobs rather than holding on, and what drink order got him through nearly two months of trial in a suit and tie in West Palm Beach in August and September. Chris Werner is the founder of his firm in Chicago, serving fast-growing startups and emerging technology companies as fractional general counsel and outside counsel nationwide. Connect with Chris Werner: LinkedIn: Chris Werner Chicago, Illinois Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Chris Werner 00:31 Naming the firm after the Norse god of vengeance — and the real reason behind it was not wanting to rebrand constantly 02:06 The focus of the practice — emerging technology, AI, quantum cryptography, fractional GC for companies not ready for full-time counsel 03:36 Drinking from a fire hose on new technology — from casino licensing to cannabis to blockchain to AI 05:00 What gets him out of bed — the energy of entrepreneurs and always finding the next thing 06:05 Fractional GC versus ad hoc outside counsel — what the practice actually looks like day to day 06:50 Early litigation experience as a roadmap — all the things that can go wrong and how to prevent them 07:49 A recent regulatory landmine — HIPAA and FTC issues on a new technology play and how the conversation actually went 09:30 Never bring a problem without at least three solution options — and always have a recommendation 10:11 How to tell a founder something they don't want to hear without creating friction 12:39 How do I know if I need a retainer versus just calling when something comes up 13:30 The five to ten hours per month threshold where fractional GC starts making sense 14:30 Why hourly billing is the worst way for lawyers to sell their time and terrible for clients 15:30 A ten to fifteen minute call can save a startup from a lawsuit — why the friction of the meter kills that 16:17 What is the one contract clause growing companies get wrong most consistently 16:26 Indemnification clauses — why they are sneaky, written in legal ease, and can represent millions in hidden liability 17:34 How to write indemnification clauses on the other side — narrow them to real scenarios you can actually explain and insure 19:11 Do clients have to be in Chicago — no, and some have been in the UK with ICC arbitrations 20:01 When does a company outgrow a fractional GC — the fifty percent of time threshold 21:00 Going full-time as GC and COO through a private equity acquisition with one former fractional client 22:00 Helping clients find and hire their first full-time general counsel when they are ready 23:17 Working yourself out of a job — why that suits how his mind works #ChrisWerner #TrustcastShow #FractionalGC #StartupLawyer #EmergingTechnologyLaw #AIGovernance #StartupLegal #ChicagoAttorney #FractionalGeneralCounsel #FounderLegal
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