This week’s spiral is about reclaiming messiness in your 20s. Somewhere along the way, being young turned into perfect routines, early bedtimes, and treating life like a performance review and I’m calling bullshit.

Being messy doesn’t mean being self-destructive. It means saying yes sometimes, staying out late, making mistakes, kissing people you won’t marry, missing a workout because life happened, and actually living. Especially after everything our generation has been through, a pandemic, impossible dating culture, a brutal job market, rising costs, nonstop comparison, and a terrifying political climate.

We didn’t get the carefree youth we were promised. So we don’t need to rush into acting 50.

Messy is a phase. Messy is human. Messy is in.

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This week I’m spiraling about journal tok and why wellness culture sometimes feels like another way we’re told there’s a “right” way to be healthy (and if you don’t do it perfectly, you’re failing). From there, I share some 2026 pod predictions (no goals, just vibes and consequences) and then get into people pleasing. Why we do it, how it shows up, and how to start fighting those tendencies without becoming mean or cold.

We talk saying yes when you don’t want to, fearing conflict, over-apologizing, setting boundaries, and learning how to be honest without abandoning yourself. I’m not on the other side of this, I’m actively working on it right now. What situations do youpeople please in the most? Let me know so I’m not alone

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This week on Casually Spiraling, I’m joined by a dear friend and seriously inspiring human—Ananda Palmore. You may know her from Peacock’s Fight Night alongside Kevin Hart and Don Cheadle, or from her honest, thoughtful writing on Substack.

We talk about how we met post-grad in Atlanta, growing up in the industry together, and what it’s been like navigating acting, rejection, and big dreams—now from LA. Ananda opens up about her time at Spelman, finding pride and community, and learning how to take up space without losing kindness.

We also dive into Fight Night, what that booking meant after years of auditions, handling last-minute changes on set, and how she stays grounded in a career that can feel unstable and overwhelming.

Follow Ananda on Substack: @anandap1

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