In this eye-opening episode of Call Me Data, David Gleason and Peter Memon sit down with Mery Zadeh, SVP of AI Governance at Luminova, to discuss the critical but overlooked risks of agentic AI systems. They explore what happens when AI agents are given goals — not tasks — and why traditional risk frameworks fail to keep up.
From NVidia’s dominance in the AI chip market to real-world agent failures, Mery shares insider strategies on building trust, implementing guardrails, and why companies must evolve from black boxes to "black box recorders." This is a must-watch for tech leaders, compliance officers, and developers navigating the frontier of autonomous systems.

00:00 - Introduction and AI Market Overview
05:53 - Understanding Agentic AI and Its Risks
11:42 - Governance and Trust in Agentic AI
16:04 - Technical Controls & Human Oversight
20:56 - Navigating AI Governance & Compliance
27:18 - The Role of Diverse Perspectives in AI
30:49 - Success Stories and Risks of AI Agents
36:56 - Monitoring and Managing AI Behavior
41:56 - Frameworks & Regulations for AI Governance
47:34 - The Cost of Compliance in Banking
48:38 - Regulatory Moats: Help or Hindrance?
50:35 - How Regulations Impact Startups
51:38 - Balancing Regulation and Innovation
54:09 - Public Safety and the Role of AI Policy
57:45 - Establishing Accountability in AI Systems
01:00:24 - The Complexity of AI Liability
01:02:12 - Best Practices for AI Governance

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CEOs are secretly using AI, but won’t admit it — why? In this episode of Call Me Data, David Gleason and Peter Memon dig into a revealing new report on AI adoption in the enterprise, exposing a surprising reality: most executives rely on AI tools but hide their usage out of shame. David and Peter explore the cultural, organizational, and leadership gaps holding companies back from real AI transformation — from fear-based restrictions to training failures. Learn how to bridge these divides, empower teams, and lead with transparency in the age of AI. Subscribe for weekly insights into AI strategy, real-world deployment, and responsible adoption.

00:00 - Why Executives Hide Their AI Use
01:29 - Jetson Super Nano and YOLO SDK Projects
04:16 - WalkMe Report on AI Shame and Usage
07:11 - Survey Red Flags in AI Implementation
10:19 - Corporate AI Talk vs Real Action Gap
13:55 - Digital Transformation Déjà Vu
16:11 - The Illusion of Effortless AI Adoption
19:11 - Execs Are Confident—But Delusional?
21:27 - AI Peanut Butter Strategies Fail
26:37 - Gen Z Quietly Uses Unsanctioned AI Tools
28:57 - Companies Ban Meeting Transcription Tools
31:35 - Why CEOs Punt AI Projects to CIOs
36:05 - CEO Ego and AI: A Conflict of Image
42:00 - AI Tools Still Need Human Oversight
44:19 - What AI Leadership Should Look Like
47:59 - AI Influencers Are Getting It Wrong
50:26 - Giving Tools Isn’t a Real Strategy
54:06 - Stop Hiding: Normalize Using AI
56:25 - Learning and Playing with AI Every Day
59:52 - Org-Level Transformation Strategy
1:01:05 - What Real AI Adoption Looks Like

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You won’t believe how Peter predicts the collapse of the “AI Magic Hype” – and David goes full skeptic. In this explosive episode of All In On Data, David Gleason and Peter Memon debate the future of multimodal AI agents, call out misleading marketing from ElevenLabs and Rabbit, and break down how to spot “data theater” from real innovation. With sharp insight and dry wit, they unpack the dangers of overhyping AI and what’s actually changing in how we use voice assistants, LLMs, and synthetic media. If you’ve ever wondered whether AI magic is smoke and mirrors—this is your episode.
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00:00 - Intro: Is AI Losing Its Magic?
04:23 - Peter Breaks Down “Data Theater”
10:19 - The Problem with ElevenLabs & Fake Reactions
15:44 - Will Multimodal Agents Really Work?
21:32 - Voice Interfaces: The New Hype Bubble?
27:00 - OpenAI, Rabbit, and the Death of the AI Device
32:11 - Why AI Isn’t Ready to Replace Search
39:02 - Tech Predictions: What’s Actually Next?
44:10 - Final Thoughts: Cutting Through the Hype

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