Before ransomware gangs, before AI, before anyone had heard the word "endpoint" — a teenager in Estonia ran a coax cable from the ISP upstairs into his bedroom, went exploring, and ended up quietly rewriting the news a local radio station read on air.

That teenager is Ronnie Jaanhold, co-founder of Security Software (later Cybers, now NEVERHACK Estonia), and in this Summer Series episode he sits down with host Louis Zezeran to trace the whole arc: from flat, unlogged networks and 56k modems to today's professionalised criminal economy.

Along the way: why cybersecurity once meant nothing more than antivirus, firewalls and encryption; what the McAfee–Intel acquisition taught Ronnie about choosing vendors on more than technology; why MDM was "mostly crap" for a decade; why technical buyers are allergic to sales pitches; and why people still have to touch the hot stove before they buy protection.

Part career story, part industry post-mortem, part practical advice for anyone selling, buying or building security.

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What happens when a 155-year-old railway company decides to leap straight to the cutting edge of cybersecurity? In this episode of the NEVERHACK Cybercast, host Louis Zezeran breaks down zero trust from three angles: the theory, the technology, and a real-world national-scale implementation.

Domenico Iandoli (NEVERHACK Italy) explains why zero trust is not a product you can buy, but a journey — and why AI-powered attackers have made the old "patch, patch, patch" approach obsolete. Jonne Tuomela (Netskope) walks through ZTNA, SASE, and how a trust broker evaluates every single connection — identity, device, location, data and more. Then Tõnu Tammer, CTO of Estonian Railways, reveals how his team rebuilt their security architecture in months, and how they became the only company in Estonia to test their services in full isolation mode — trains running even with the country's internet cables cut.

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What does it take to sit across the table from a cybercriminal — drinks in hand, at 3 a.m. in Dubai — and not blow your cover? In this episode of the NEVERHACK Estonia Cybercast, host Ronnie Jaanhold sits down with Richard K. LaTulip, author, cybersecurity expert, and retired U.S. Secret Service Special Agent (1998–2020), now Field CISO at Recorded Future.

Richard traces the evolution of cybercrime from counterfeit bills printed on all-in-one printers, through card skimming and IRC chatrooms, to the global carding forums he infiltrated during Operation Karter Chaos. He explains why the Secret Service opened an office in Tallinn, how he helped stop a million-dollar business email compromise in the Baltics, why Estonian hackers ended up with guns to their heads in the forest, and what quantum computing means for the next wave of crime.

Plus: the Titanic analogy every executive should hear about threat intelligence, and how to win a signed copy of Richard's book, Operation Karter Chaos.

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