Most e-commerce brands think they have a retention problem.

But according to Eli Weiss, they often have something deeper: a customer experience problem.

In the first episode of CX After Hours, Eli joins hosts Guillaume Luccisano and Anya Kelly to unpack where retention really breaks — long before a customer churns, leaves a bad review, or opens a support ticket.

They discuss why your best customers often leave quietly, why “deflection” is the wrong goal if customers still aren’t getting resolution, and why the boring parts of e-commerce CX — returns, refunds, exchanges, replacements, and policies — are often the moments that decide whether customers come back.

Eli Weiss is VP of Advocacy at Yotpo and previously led CX and retention at brands including OLIPOP and Jones Road Beauty. He also writes the excellent All Things CX and Retention newsletter.

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Chapters:

03:21 — From CX cost center to retention driver

08:00 — The Vent: what CX gets wrong about automation

09:00 — Why the remaining 10% of tickets matter most

13:31 — Faster slop: when AI makes bad CX worse

14:21 — The ripped socks story: policy vs. customer loyalty

16:01 — When AI should hand off to a human

17:12 — Deflection vs. resolution

18:43 — Why retention is mostly product

19:36 — What Reddit and social reveal about CX

24:11 — When CX becomes a safety net for broken systems

29:23 — Why refunds and returns are business tools

36:07 — The future of CX: bots plus exceptional humans

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Guillaume Lucissano: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guillaumeluccisano/

Anya Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anya-kelly/

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Eli Weiss: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliweisss/

CX After Hours is the podcast for CX leaders and operators in retail and ecommerce who are in the trenches scaling customer experience to drive real growth.

Powered by Yuma AI, the show goes beyond polished talking points to explore the trade-offs, pressure, and decisions that shape whether customers come back, spend more, and stay loyal.

Learn more about Yuma AI: https://yuma.ai/

CX After Hours is the podcast for customer experience leaders and operators in retail and e-commerce navigating the space between customer expectations and business goals.

Because in CX, you sit in the middle.

You want to do right by the customer - while also driving retention, revenue, and growth. Every day is a balance between empathy and efficiency, speed and quality, automation and human connection.

The problem? Most CX content feels polished and theoretical — far removed from the reality of the job.

So we created CX After Hours: honest, unscripted conversations about what it actually takes to make customer experience work at scale.

Hosted by Guillaume Luccisano and Anya Kelly, this show dives into the real stories, trade-offs, and decisions behind modern CX.

Expect conversations around:

• AI in CX
• Retention and loyalty
• Scaling support teams
• E-commerce and retail operations
• Tough calls, mistakes, and lessons learned

No corporate jargon. No perfect playbooks. Just real conversations about real CX.

If you work in customer experience, e-commerce, or retail, this podcast is for you.

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Get all the episodes in video format, with additional written content, on our site: https://yuma.ai/cx-after-hours