In this conversation, Travis Montgomery interviews Wes Pastor, a seasoned church planter and pastor, about the importance of understanding true conversion in ministry. Wes shares his journey from a nominal faith to a deeper understanding of conversion, influenced by Jonathan Edwards's writings. They discuss the practical implications of this understanding in preaching, counseling, and church membership processes. Wes also highlights the work of the NETS Center, which trains and sends pastors to New England, emphasizing the need for both theological education and practical ministry experience.

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Keywords

Wes Pastor, conversion, ministry, NETS Center, counseling, church planting, theological education, pastoral training, New England, evangelism, Jonathan Edwards, Edwards

Takeaways

Understanding true conversion is crucial for effective ministry.

True conversion involves both intellectual assent and heartfelt affection.

Theological constructs can shape practical ministry outcomes.

Counseling can reveal the true spiritual state of individuals.

Marriage counseling has proven to be an effective evangelistic tool.

NETS Center provides essential training for future pastors.

Practical applications of conversion can enhance church growth.

The balance of light (doctrine) and heat (affection) is vital.

Church membership processes should assess genuine faith.

The gospel is necessary for both believers and non-believers.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Wes Pastor and His Ministry

02:05 Understanding True Conversion

06:14 The Role of Affections in Conversion

10:06 Balancing Light and Heat in Faith

12:04 Practical Applications in Ministry

16:35 Assessing Faith and Assurance

19:26 Understanding Conversion and Testimony

22:20 The Role of Counseling in Evangelism

24:14 Applying the Gospel to Life's Struggles

25:54 Resources for Understanding Conversion

28:35 Introducing the NET Center

29:33 Training Pastors for Effective Ministry

31:18 The New Residency Program

36:13 Encouragement for Future Pastors