Do people really change?

And if they do… do they deserve another chance?

In part two of this Brains Gone Bold conversation, Maria and Jeanine continue their honest discussion on change, second chances, trust, and forgiveness, joined again by Jeanine’s mom, Cathy. This episode goes deeper, and gets more complicated (in the best way).

They talk about the difference between people changing and wanting someone else to change. Cathy shares a powerful insight early on: people can change, but only if they want to. You can’t force it.

From there, the conversation opens up.
Second chances in marriages.
Second chances in families.
Second chances at work.

And the moment when trust breaks, and you have to decide if it can ever be rebuilt.

They wrestle with tough questions:

• Where’s the line between a mistake and a character flaw?
• Is love a choice, or something you can’t turn off?
• Can you still love someone and decide they don’t get access to you anymore?

One moment lands especially hard: “Some change is growth. Some change just shows you who someone really is.” And maybe the most honest takeaway of all: sometimes the only real answer is… it depends.

If you’ve ever struggled with forgiveness, boundaries, or letting someone back in (or letting them go) this conversation will stick with you.

Listen in, reflect, and decide where you land.

Change is supposed to be normal.
So why does it feel so heavy?

In this special episode of Brains Gone Bold, Maria and Jeanine welcome their first-ever guest: Cathy (Jeanine’s mom) for an honest, multi-generational conversation about change, control, and what it means to grow through life’s biggest transitions.

Maria opens up about recent changes that hit deeper than expected like selling her childhood home, watching her son grow more independent, and grieving chapters of life that quietly close. What looks “normal” on the outside often comes with real loss on the inside.

Cathy shares her story of change across decades in leaving home at 18, moving across the country, raising a family, and navigating life with a deep need for control as a way to feel safe. As she puts it, holding emotions in was about not losing control, even when everything else felt uncertain.

Jeanine adds perspective on how control and freedom are often connected, especially for people who’ve lived in environments where decisions weren’t always theirs to make. The conversation moves through parenting, family traditions, technology, and the question of whether change makes us stronger… or just different.

One powerful insight lands clearly: Some change is chosen. Some is forced. And how we experience it depends on who we are and where we are in life.

This is part one of a two-part conversation that ends with a big question:
What happens after the change... and do we believe in second chances?

Come for the reflection. Stay for the honesty. Tune in and come back for part two.

This episode starts with leadership… and somehow ends up in online dating.
So yes - it’s another Brains Gone Bold ride.

On this episode, Maria and Jeanine talk about expectations and how they sneak into everything: work, relationships, leadership, even what we think people “should” do or say.

Maria shares a moment from a leadership talk that hit her hard: we’re always teaching managers how to support their teams, but we rarely ask the obvious question: who’s supporting the managers? She opens up about how heavy leadership can feel, especially when you’re carrying everyone else and still expected to look “fine.”

Jeanine jumps in with the truth: leadership can be lonely, draining, and unrealistic, especially when people get promoted with no training and are told to manage a team on top of doing their old job.

And then… the detour.

Jeanine shares some very real online dating stories, including a guy who went from “promise you won’t stalk me” to “do you want to measure me?” real fast. It turns into a surprisingly deep moment about perception, self-blame, and the pressure women feel to manage other people’s behavior.

By the end, the big takeaway lands clearly: expectations can set us up, but curiosity helps us stay human in leadership, in life, and yes… in dating.

Come join us for another fun ride. Tune in.