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Brad Gustafson and George Couros explore the core ideas behind George’s book Forward, Together, focusing on what principled leadership looks like in real schools, with real people, and real challenges.

In this conversation, they unpack practical leadership concepts educators can actually use, including the “warm bath, cold shower” approach to feedback, why pointing at yourself first matters, and how inviting respectful pushback can strengthen trust rather than fracture relationships. George shares why leadership frameworks never work perfectly, because people are always the variable, and how perspectives help leaders stay grounded when situations become emotionally charged or complex.

Through short, honest stories, Brad and George highlight the role of vulnerability, nuance, and elevating others in building stronger school communities. Rather than offering quick fixes, this discussion emphasizes clarity about who you want to be, how you hold conversations when it is hardest, and why principled leadership matters most in moments of tension.

This episode is especially relevant for educators, school leaders, and anyone navigating difficult conversations while trying to move a community forward together.

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📚 Books by George Couros:

Forward, Together:

https://a.co/d/99RGvl3

The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20

Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20

Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

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