In this episode of the CEO Pulse Podcast, we sit down with Jordan Samuel Fleming — Founder of Smartphone, one of the most widely used communication platforms in real estate investing and business operations.

Jordan breaks down how he built Smartphone from $0 to $10M+ in revenue, scaled a global team, and did it all without outside funding. We talk SaaS, REI tech, Podio, AI innovation, leadership, culture, scaling, and the truth about becoming a CEO who can step out of the day-to-day.

Whether you're a real estate investor, SaaS founder, operator, or entrepreneur, this one will hit hard.

Timestamps / Chapters:
00:00 – Intro
02:05 – Starting Smartphone: The Origin Story
06:32 – Bootstrapping a SaaS to $10M+
10:48 – Why Phone + Podio Changed REI Forever
15:21 – Leadership, Culture & CEO Evolution
22:45 – Crisis Mode: Near Shutdown Story
31:10 – Building Teams Who Rally, Not Run
38:50 – AI, Innovation & What’s Coming Next
46:03 – Advice for Founders & CEOs
58:12 – Closing Thoughts

Highlights:
• The truth about scaling SaaS without investors
• Why Smartphone became a real estate tech standard
• How to build culture people actually fight for
• The difference between managing and leading
• When to step away from the CEO seat
• Why complacency kills companies
• What’s coming next with AI + communication

About Jordan Fleming:
Jordan is the CEO and Founder of Smartphone, one of the most widely used communication platforms in real estate investing. He has decades of experience in technology, scaling teams, building systems, and leading organizational change at the highest level. Smartphone is deeply integrated with Podio and continues to innovate at the front edge of AI.

Connect with Jordan Fleming:
Website: https://www.smrtphone.io/
Instagram: IG: https://www.instagram.com/jsamuelfleming/

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