In this episode, Sara sits down with Honesty Liller for a conversation about identity, self-trust and the courage it takes to create beyond the role people already know you for.

Honesty is widely known for her leadership as CEO of the McShin Foundation, where she has spent nearly two decades serving individuals and families impacted by addiction. Now, as she steps more fully into her work as a transformational coach, she expands her impact beyond one title, while staying rooted in the lived experience that shaped her.

Together, Sara and Honesty explore the pressure of being the strong one, the ways self-abandonment can hide inside competence and service, and what it means to trust your next chapter before it is fully formed.

The conversation moves through recovery, leadership, authorship, entrepreneurship, imposter syndrome and the daily practices that can help you stay grounded so you can build a life that reflects the fullness of who you are becoming.

In this episode:

* Expanding beyond the role people know you for

* The pressure of being the strong one

* Self-abandonment in leadership, service and motherhood

* The difference between performance-based confidence and grounded self-trust

* Starting a coaching business while already holding a visible leadership role

* Writing, recovery and trusting the creative process

* Daily practices that support steadiness, presence and integrity

* Letting your next chapter take shape before every piece feels certain

About Honesty Liller

Honesty Liller is a transformational coach, speaker, author and CEO of the McShin Foundation. For nearly two decades, she has served individuals and families impacted by addiction through recovery advocacy and nonprofit leadership.

Through her coaching work, Honesty supports women in building confidence, strengthening daily habits and creating lives rooted in self-trust, structure and personal responsibility.

Connect with Honesty

Learn more about Honesty and connect with her here:

https://www.honestyliller.com/

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