Last time, they shared how they survived. Today, a doctor and a lawyer share what it takes to truly live in recovery.

In this episode of Stand Up (for) Doctors!, we continue an important conversation about substance use disorder, identity, and the lifelong journey of recovery.

🔹 Dr. Sean Fogler is an anesthesiologist by training and CEO of Elevyst, working at the intersection of public health and public safety to build healthier communities.

🔹 Kevin Hyer is a lawyer and CEO of The Hyer Calling Foundation, supporting recovery-friendly workplaces and career repair.

Substance use disorder affects an estimated 10–15% of physicians, though many experts believe the true number is higher due to stigma and fear of professional consequences. Yet physicians who participate in specialized recovery programs often achieve recovery success rates of 75–90%.

Nine months after their first conversation, Sean and Kevin return to discuss what comes after survival.

What still felt unsaid? How has recovery changed their relationship with achievement, identity, and success? What did they have to let go of to move forward?

Together, we explore:

• What life looks like beyond the first steps of recovery

• How recovery reshapes identity and purpose

• The ongoing tensions that remain, even years later

• Why vulnerability is essential to healing

• What they want others struggling in silence to hear today

Recovery is not just about getting your life back. It's about discovering a life worth living.

🔗 Connect with our guests:

Dr. Sean Fogler

🌐 www.elevyst.com

🌐 www.seanfogler.com

🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-fogler-md-emba-2602aa12b/

Kevin Hyer

🌐 HyerCalling.org

🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinhyeresq/

This episode is sponsored by Brian Case and Direct Wealth Care, providing conflict-free tools and resources that help physicians address the financial stress not talked about in medicine. https://directwealthcare.com/

If today’s conversation resonated with you, you’ll find more powerful stories like this in our White Coats book series — created to humanize medicine and amplify physician voices: https://standupfordoctors.org/books/

And if you’re ready to go deeper…

🌿 Join us at the Stand Up (for) Doctors! Inaugural Physician Retreat

📍 Windrose on Hudson

🗓 October 9–12, 2026

🔗 https://standupfordoctors.org/events/

CME Credits Available:

• 11 AMA PRA Category 1 Credits™

• 11 AOA Category 2-A CME Credits

Interested in sponsoring an episode or supporting this movement?

📩 standupfordoctors@gmail.com

Because when doctors reclaim joy, everyone benefits.

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