Don't let the title fool you, Max Jolliffe doesn't want to be the king of anything. But the boy sit down with him between the pines this month anyway. Plus, they regale with stories of Utah 115 and preview all the people who will not be running Western States this year.

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This month, Dom and Andy ill-advisedly take on their boss and co-CEO of UltraSignup David Callahan. Plus, they deconstruct the new running caveman ad starring sweetboy Tim Tollefson and reflect on the week that was Cocodona. Get 10% off Janji gear with code BTP10 and 20% off Dirtbag Bars with code ULTRADIRTBAG20.

The world's first (and only?) ultrarunner/paraglider Jason Hardrath sails straight into the pines to talk about his 121 career FKTs. Plus, the boys cover the scientific study saying marathons make you dumber, they preview their Utah 115 race, and they play Would You Rather? Ultra Edition. As always, get your own Janji give for spring with 10% off with code BTP10.

Carb evangelist and Leadville 100 course record holder David Roche extols the boys on the virtues of being totally hairless, how meat can be vegan, and why he’ll win Western States without training. Plus, Andy counter-challenges someone to a Race To The Death, and Fartalk helps a caller with treadmill HIIT. And visit our friends at Janji and get 10% off with code BTP10.

Maggie Guterl gives Andy and Dom advice for being an IPOS and growing their social media followings. Plus, moths finally speak out about running brands appropriating their culture and the boys rank their favorite least favorite races for 2025. Get 10% off all Janji gear when you use code BTP10.

The Corporanino Cowboy himself Eric Senseman drops in between the pines to talk about life as a 30-something-year-old retiree. And since that's depressing, there's pretty of holiday cheer from gift guides for your crew, a Christmas poem tradition, and the look ahead to what awaits us in 2025.

Coming fresh off the most unusual (for them) but very popular New York City Marathon, the boys recount their favorite moments of the weekend. What is Strava edging, and why aren't you on the BTP Edging group? Christian Allen tells all, and leaves us envious of his vicious mullet and stride.

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As the boys prep for the New York City Marathon, they sit down with the Olympic bronze medalist Molly Seidel to ask how to run a marathon and learn about how she's leaning into her villain era.

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