In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Beth and Jeff McCord—bestselling authors and founders of Your Enneagram Coach—to unpack the powerful story behind one of the most influential faith-based coaching movements in the world.

After a devastating church transition left them questioning their purpose, the McCords found themselves in an unexpected season of rebuilding.

What began with financial uncertainty, part-time jobs, and late-night brainstorming sessions soon grew into a global platform serving millions.

They share openly about loss, marriage tension, risk, recovery, and the surprising ways God used their pain to prepare them for something new.

Takeaways :

👉 The church role that went sideways—and the sabbatical that forced a reset

👉 Beth’s entrepreneurial spark (platform skills, first Instagram posts, the scrappy first coach cohort)

👉 Jeff’s recovery & reframing season (counseling, ACOA, learning to learn-and-act)

👉 The catalytic moment: Ian Cron’s book hits and demand surges

👉 Why they launched Beth’s company (not under Jeff’s) to rewrite old patterns

👉 “Building while flying”: hiring help, customer support, and sustainable rhythms

👉 Redefining success beyond a church title—serving more people in new ways

👉 How their latest work (More Than Your Number) blends IFS with the Enneagram to navigate the inner world through transition
This Episode Is for You If…

• You’ve been through a ministry/job disruption and need a hopeful, practical blueprint
• You and your spouse are navigating new roles while building something together
• You’re curious how small experiments (and a lot of faithfulness) compound into a movement
• You want to see how Enneagram insight + recovery work shaped a resilient second act
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📝 Show Notes: https://itstheinbetween.com/episode31-beth-jeff-mccord/