In Episode 2 of Around the Block, Leah and Marty sit down with Katie Goar, President of Quadel, to tackle a tension that runs through every corner of the affordable housing industry — can you enforce the rules and still lead with compassion? With three decades of experience spanning city government, public housing, and multifamily portfolio oversight, Katie makes a compelling case that housing practitioners don't have to choose. It's a candid, energizing conversation about what it really means to serve people well — and why the health of your internal operations matters just as much as the next ribbon cutting.

Katie's TEDx Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMIn8_rA5iU
Quadel's Changemakers Podcast: https://quadel.com/changemakers-with-katie-goar/

Leah and Marty introduce their new podcast, talk about their backgrounds in community development and then a little about what their goal is for the Around the Block Podcast.