George, Money Wise UK, chats with Pietro Nicholls, co-manager of the VT RM Alternative Income Fund, about what “alternatives” really are, liquidity myths, the rate/inflation cycle, and why governance matters in investment trusts. They cover diversification, where real assets fit vs the 60/40, activism vs engagement (incl. Gore Street), and how VT RM balances income with capital preservation.

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Chapter markers

• 00:03 Intro & guest background

• 01:13 Early influences & learning habits

• 09:12 What are “alternatives”?

• 12:19 Liquidity myths & real-world tests

• 15:49 Diversification through cycles

• 19:35 Rates, inflation & positioning

• 23:28 Investment trusts: safety, governance & discounts

• 27:36 Fees & the OCF confusion

• 31:20 Performance, cycles & today’s opportunity

• 33:17 Are alts too complex?

• 36:08 Engagement vs “activism” (Gore Street)

• 42:28 VTRM’s mission & portfolio mix

• 49:06 ESG & transparency

• 54:45 Best advice & final takeaway