What's actually stopping you from pitching yourself for the keynote, raising your hand for the workshop, or walking up to the person in the room you most admire?

Spoiler: it's not your skill set.

Jillian is joined by her business bestie Hayleigh of Espresso Podcast Production, recording live from Boise, Idaho after wrapping the Craft & Commerce conference.

This is part two of a two-part collab episode — head to Podcast Cafe (Hayleigh's podcast) to listen to part one first, then come back here.

In this conversation, Jillian and Hayleigh unpack the real reason some people leave a conference with momentum and others go home with nothing but a tote bag. They talk delusional confidence, networking your way, what it means to have your own back, and why the only person standing between you and that stage is you.

What You'll Hear:

Why giving real value — not just selling — is what makes people stay in your world [00:02:00]

What Jillian's most unexpected conference takeaway was and why it changed everything [00:03:00]

The truth about the people on stage — they're not smarter, they just pitched themselves [00:04:00]

Why "fail publicly" might be the best business advice you'll hear all year [00:05:00]

How to stop telling yourself no before anyone else gets the chance [00:06:00]

Why not showing up is doing your potential clients a disservice [00:07:00]

How Jillian and Hayleigh network completely differently — and why both work [00:08:00]

The Kit features that are changing the game for email list growth and content strategy [00:13:00]

Resources:

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Connect with Hayleigh:

Listen to Part 1 on Podcast Cafe

Espresso Podcast Production

Connect with Jillian:

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