In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Andrew Simila—executive coach, associate partner at Novus Global, and former pastor—who helps leaders live beyond their default future and into what he calls the generative future.

After 15 years in ministry, Andrew resigned from his pastoral role without a clear next step. What followed was a season of deep exploration, honest questions, and a slow but powerful reinvention.

Together, we explore what it means to live with curiosity, how to ask “What do I want?” without shame, and why ownership is often the doorway to transformation.

This is a conversation for anyone feeling stuck, frustrated, or dreaming of something different—but afraid to say it out loud.

Takeaways:

👉 Why every leader underestimates what they’re capable

👉 How to give yourself permission to want something new

👉 What Andrew means by “Growth happens on the hook, not off it”

👉 Why ministry is a function—not a title

👉 The difference between comfort and calling

👉 What the F.A.C.T. loop is—and how to know when you're in it

👉 Why vision without values is dangerous

👉 How to live with curiosity—in life, work, and relationship

👉 Why Andrew believes feedback is a gift, not a threat

This Episode Is for You If...

• You’ve left (or are considering leaving) a leadership role
  

• You’re questioning your next chapter—but scared of letting go
  

• You’re carrying guilt around asking, “What do I want?”
  

• • You’re tired of surviving and want to explore what thriving might look like

  
  

  • You know it’s time for a change—and don’t want to wait for a collapse

  
  

  📝 Show Notes: https://itstheinbetween.com/episode27-andrew-simila/