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We’re back with our holiday special extravaganza! This week, we reminisce about the exact moments we learned Santa wasn’t real, relive iconic Christmas memories, including questionable holiday cocktails and Del Taco traditions, and spiral into discussions about grief, RBF vs. resting concerned face, and why Christmas dinner is basically just Thanksgiving in December.

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⁠@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠⁠

Credits:

Audio & Video Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey

Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman

Music:

BalloonPlanet - "Once Upon a Christmas Groove"

Rex Banner - "Silent Night"

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Guess who’s in their consistency era? (That’s on character development!)

In this episode, Haley accidentally launches herself into orbit courtesy of a mystery gummy, while Gavyn gets unexpectedly acquainted with modern medicine and a surprise nap he didn’t sign up for. From hiccup horror stories to cosmic tarot readings, we somehow end up getting way too real about mental health, body image, and what it means to actually grow up.

It’s funny, a little unhinged, and more vulnerable than we planned.. kinda like therapy, but with worse advice and better banter.

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Credits:

Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey

Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman

Music:

“Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom

“Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic

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This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down with artist and songwriter manager, A&R, founder of The Arena Music, and—once upon a time—Gavyn’s boss, Jared Kaner. They get into the wild reality of the music business and how Jared went from selling houses to working behind the scenes on global hits for artists like 5 Seconds of Summer, David Guetta, Galantis, Alan Walker, and more.

If you’re an aspiring artist, songwriter, producer, or future manager, this episode is basically a free masterclass. Jared breaks down what it really takes to build a career in today’s industry, sharing the advice he wishes he had starting out.

And because we can’t resist, we also drag Jared through our favorite recurring segments. Spoiler: he’s officially over Labubus.

Connect with Jared!

@jaredkaner / @thearenamusic

👩🏼👨🏻 The Hosts:

⁠@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

⁠@haleschaps⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

Credits:

Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey

Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman

Music:

“Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom

“Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic

And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.