From the transcript...

So we were looking at, or talking about, how we’re coming to see God differently. And in understanding who He is, we realize He sees us differently than what we thought. Yeah—how He sees us is different than I used to think how He saw us. Exactly. He hasn’t changed His mind; it’s our perspective that has changed. Because under that penal substitutionary thought process, the idea is that He’s angry, Jesus is running interference, and He sees me “in Christ,” meaning He really doesn’t like me, but as long as I’m hidden here I can get near Him. That’s another scripture that comes to mind when you say that. The whole idea is that in that law-based, legal transaction, it’s like He marks out our sins and gives us a legal righteousness—and for years, that was my understanding of justification. And then I realized, no, that’s not it. It’s not limited to a legal transaction on a piece-of-paper concept, but He’s made me right with Himself in the entirety of my being. Who I am has been made like Him—that it’s the same love He has for Jesus that He has for me. That I can sit in heavenly places in Christ Jesus and rest, because I belong there because of how He made me and how Christ has redeemed me. That through this good news, this is the life that’s available now and forever—we’ve been brought into that triune dance.