This week Nick talks to Charles Skinner

Charles Skinner is a leading authority on Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition (ETA). As CEO, he transformed a £3m business into a £100m exit and grew another company’s value 30-fold to £300m, earning AIM Company of the Year in 2016. He is currently the CEO of Restore PLC, and the author of Buy, Run, Build: A Guide to Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition. Charles also advises the ETA search fund Mentmore Associates and chairs four private companies.

Nick and Charles discuss Charles Skinner’s unconventional career path, beginning in investment banking before moving into venture capital, journalism and ultimately discovering his strengths in running and improving real businesses. Charles reflects on how he gradually shifted away from finance-led roles towards hands-on leadership, realising he was far more interested in building companies than simply analysing them. He and Nick explore the early stages of his journey, including lessons learned from missteps, the appeal of smaller operational businesses, and the importance of understanding people, staying humble and learning from failure.

They then turn to the rise, challenges and rebuilding of Restore, the company most associated with Charles’s leadership. Nick and Charles also explore themes such as entrepreneurship through acquisition, decentralised leadership, motivating teams, and managing crises with transparency and decisiveness. Charles illustrates these ideas with candid stories about leadership errors, boardroom politics and the importance of “running towards the gunfire” when problems arise.

Charles’s book choices were:
The Practice of Management by Peter F Drucker
https://www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/products/practice-of-management-the-book-peter-f-drucker-9780434903894

Parkinson's Law by C Northcote Parkinson
https://www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/products/parkinson-s-law-book-c-northcote-parkinson-9780140023664

Charles’s music choice was:
Bach: The Goldberg Variations played by Glenn Gould
https://open.spotify.com/album/1aCpHSQE5ghxibsQ5gkBe0

Charles' Book - Buy, Run, Build: A Guide to Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition - is available here

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In this week's episode Nick talks to Allan Lockhart

Allan Lockhart is the CEO of NewRiver REIT plc and has over 35 years of experience in the UK retail real estate sector. He began his career with Strutt & Parker in 1988, advising leading property companies and institutions on retail leasing, investment, and development. In 2002, he joined Halladale Plc as Retail Director, where he focused on identifying value-add opportunities within the UK retail market and delivering effective asset management strategies. Following Halladale’s successful sale in early 2007, Allan co-founded NewRiver, serving as Property Director from its IPO before being appointed Chief Executive Officer in May 2018.

Nick and Allan’s discussion focuses on the transformation of UK retail real estate and the future of the sector. Allan Lockhart, CEO of NewRiver REIT, reflects on his unconventional career path from insurance broking to property investment and how shifts in technology, e-commerce, and consumer behaviour have reshaped retail spaces. He explains the evolution from long-term leases to a more operationally driven market and champions omnichannel retailing — where physical stores complement online sales as critical “last-mile” distribution points. He highlights the enduring strength of convenience-led retail, retail parks, and grocery-anchored assets as consumers prioritize accessibility and efficiency.

The conversation then widens into economic and policy themes. Allan emphasizes the resilience of UK consumers amid inflation and high interest rates, buoyed by strong employment and elevated savings. He calls for decisive government fiscal reform to reduce debt and stimulate investment, particularly through business rate and stamp duty reforms that could unlock real estate growth. Looking ahead, he envisions NewRiver doubling in size through strategic acquisitions and data-driven decision-making, with AI and predictive analytics central to this growth.

Allan's Book Choices were:
The Outsiders : Eight Unconventional CEOs and Their Radically Rational Blueprint for Success by William N. Thorndike
The Fourth Turning Is Here by Neil Howe

Allan's Music Choice:
Sex Pistols -Anarchy in the UK

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This week Nick talks to Jeff Chatfield

Jeff Chatfield is the CEO of Avation, a publicly listed aircraft leasing company with a global portfolio of commercial and regional aircraft. He has over two decades of experience in the aviation finance industry, leading the company through multiple bond issues and strategic fleet expansions. Known for his pragmatic approach to capital management, Chatfield has built Aviation into one of the few small-scale lessors capable of issuing public bonds. Based between Singapore and London, he is recognised for his clear, data-driven insights into market trends and aircraft investment strategy.

In this episode Nick and Jeff discuss the company’s recent US$300 million bond issue and improved credit ratings from major agencies, marking a significant step forward since its earlier, lower-rated bonds. Jeff discusses how the refinancing provides long-term stability, enabling the company to continue its growth trajectory over the next five and a half years. He explains how the upgraded ratings reflect Aviation’s maturity and scale in a market where even US$20 billion is now considered small, while also noting the flexibility and strategic value of bonds for managing capital efficiently.

The discussion moves to fleet strategy, including the extended lease of a wide-body A330 to EVA Air and the company’s ongoing focus on narrow-body aircraft such as A320s and ATRs. Chatfield highlights the global demand for aircraft driven by replacement cycles and rising air travel in emerging economies such as India and China. He emphasises Aviation’s valuable order book and purchase rights, which position the company strongly amid limited aircraft supply.

Jeff's Book Choice was:
The Thursday Murder Club by Richard Osman

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