What keeps city managers going when the pressure, politics, and public scrutiny feel relentless?

In this special holiday episode of Gov360, host Chris Mann revisits a candid, wide-ranging conversation with Joe Turner, founder of the American Association of Municipal Executives and host of the City Manager Unfiltered podcast, and Will Kolbow, City Manager of Calimesa, California.

Originally recorded as part of the award-winning Yucaipa 360 podcast, this discussion remains as timely today as when it first aired. Together, these three city managers reflect on the realities of the profession, the different paths that lead to the city manager’s chair, and why—despite the risks and sacrifices—local government leadership still matters.

From unconventional career journeys and first-time city manager experiences, to executive compensation, public trust, misinformation, and the evolving role of podcasts in government communication, this episode offers an honest look at what it really means to lead in local government.

Whether you’re early in your career, sitting in the city manager’s chair, or questioning whether the profession is still worth it, this conversation provides perspective, encouragement, and reassurance that you’re not alone.

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🔑 Key Learnings:

• There is no single “right” path to becoming a city manager

• The city manager works for the City Council, not directly for the public

• Executive leadership in local government carries significant personal and professional risk

• Strong financial and organizational fundamentals are critical to successful city management

• Long-form communication builds trust in ways press releases and social media cannot

• City managers need stronger peer support, advocacy, and professional community

• Despite the challenges, local government leadership can be deeply fulfilling and impactful

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🎧 Featured Topics:

• Traditional vs non-traditional paths to city management

• The council-manager form of government explained

• First-time city manager realities and learning curves

• Being fired, career resilience, and professional recovery

• Executive compensation and public perception

• Why city managers need advocacy and support networks

• The rise of podcasts as a public communication tool

• Combating misinformation and social media toxicity

• Why local government work still matters

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📚 Links & Resources:

🎙️ City Manager Unfiltered Podcast (Joe Turner): https://www.citymanagerunfiltered.com

🏛️ American Association of Municipal Executives (AAME): https://aame.org

📲 Connect with Joe Turner on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/citymanager/

📲 Connect with Will Kolbow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/will-kolbow-icma-cm-8801098/

📲 Connect with Chris Mann on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrismann76

📬 Subscribe to the free Gov360 Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7320606146577186817

🎙️ Subscribe to Gov360 on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gov360/id1807649614

🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Rq8Hxqvx23OVL0H4bQdqa

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🗣️ About Gov360: Gov360 is the show for local government professionals who want to lead with impact, master their craft, and rise to the top of the profession.

Until next time, govern boldly my friends.

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