This week, Kat and Carol chit chat and get caught up before diving into a still stewing or survived it story from Carol's time on camera at a wrestling show. We talk about Alix Earle vs Alex Cooper update, why Kat wants to be media trained, Carol is starting to read Yesteryear by Caro Claire Burke, we discuss the updates to the original Secret Lives of Mormon Wives season 5 and also dive into the cast of the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives OC. Carol spills the tea on the Aspyn Ovard throuple, Bobbi Althoff, and the latest Avery Woods scandals (2026 is the year of the grifter). Kat tells us her latest Summer House revelations about the Scamanda of it all, the Jen Fessler drama, the Kyle vs Carl explosive fight, and why we're watching all the older season. We end with Carol's still stewing or survived it story that happened at an AEW wrestling show.

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