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When the company that employed Abby Clapper announced it was moving buildings — and her position wouldn't be coming along — she had a choice: find the next safe landing, or commit to the business she'd been quietly building on the side. She jumped. And she was terrified.

Two and a half years later, her personal training practice runs almost entirely on referrals, built around a philosophy that sounds simple but isn't: meet people exactly where they are — different bodies, different brains, different histories with the gym — and help them find movement that actually sticks.

In this conversation, Abby and Joe dig into what that career leap really felt like (anxiety included), how she approaches fitness for neurodivergent clients and adults in their 70s and 80s, why she refuses to guarantee weight loss, what the Atomic Habits identity shift looks like in a real training relationship, and why she proudly calls herself a "conservative personal trainer."

If you've ever started and stopped a fitness routine, or made a leap that scared you more than you expected — this one's for you.

Resources & Links:

• Abby Clapper - Talk Your Abs Off Podcast
• Atomic Habits by James Clear
• Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome - Hypermobile Type Info

Connect with Abby:

• Instagram | Website

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