What is the difference between paying your employees and actually understanding their value? In this episode, Matt and Drew sit down with Kristine Delano, a veteran of the high-finance world turned domestic suspense author. After two decades on Wall Street, Kristine shares why she left the corporate ladder to write fiction that reveals the hard truths about leadership, culture, and the "lies we trade" to get ahead.

Kristine breaks down her unique concept of "Currency over Compensation," challenging leaders to look beyond the paycheck to find what truly motivates their people—whether it's balance, respect, or impact. She also shares a vulnerable story about being fired early in her career and how it became the greatest gift for her leadership growth.

Kristine Delano is an author and former executive in the financial services industry. She is a founding member of "Women in ETFs" and the host of the We Talk Careers podcast. Her debut novel, The Lies We Trade, explores the high-stakes world of finance and the personal costs of corporate ambition.

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