What you’ll hear in this episode:

- Why Saeju thinks AI won’t remain just a tool, and what coexistence with AGI could look like for humanity

- How Saeju’s South Korean roots shaped his community-service mindset, and why love became his foundation

- Saeju’s first startup at 19 and what it taught him about focus and momentum

- How Saeju’s father’s terminal diagnosis forced deeper questions about success and happiness

- “Sick care” vs. true health, and why prevention and behavior change matter more than treating symptoms

- How Noom turned psychology, habits, and coaching into scalable, measurable change

- Culture as a competitive edge, including rituals that reinforce gratitude, mission, and trust

- Why the AI era forces a deeper conversation about consciousness, meaning, and maturity

- Meditation and Eastern philosophy as practical tools for staying grounded as power accelerates

About Love Conquers Fear:

In an era of exponentially evolving AI and robotics, one question looms: Will humanity make it? Love Conquers Fear is where leadership meets love, technology serves humanity, and vision becomes action. Host, Brett Alexander Hurt, tech entrepreneur and investor, sits down with some of the world’s most influential people to ask: Will we unite to create the Age of Abundance for All? These conversations are calls to action, awakening leaders everywhere to rise and help humanity choose the Light.

Follow Brett Alexander Hurt on:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bretthurt/

X/Twitter: https://x.com/brettahurt

Medium: https://databrett.medium.com/

Substack: https://brettahurt.substack.com/

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YouTube: http://tiny.cc/LCF-YT

Spotify: http://tiny.cc/LCF-Spotify

Listen on:

Apple Podcasts: http://tiny.cc/LCF-Apple

Amazon Music: https://tinyurl.com/LCF-Amazon

About Saeju Jeong:

Saeju Jeong is the co-founder, Executive Chairman, and former CEO of Noom, a behavior-change company that helps people live healthier lives by combining psychology, coaching, and technology to turn habits into lasting change. Under his leadership, Noom’s platform grew to tens of millions of users worldwide and expanded into broader metabolic and whole-person health programs beyond weight loss. Saeju is also active in the global health and tech ecosystems, including work with the World Economic Forum and service on the Foundation for the National Institutes of Health board. Like Brett, he’s also a Henry Crown Fellow in the Aspen Institute.

Timestamps:

0:00:00 — Preview

0:00:56 — Intro: NYC, Jonathan Greenblatt

0:01:51 — Welcome Saeju Jeong

0:04:57 — Family legacy of medicine and service, love as a foundation, choosing your own path

0:14:36 — Mission-first entrepreneurship, building from frustration, father's cancer diagnosis

0:24:19 — Defining success and purpose, "sick care" incentives, scaling impact

0:33:42 — Starting from scratch, healthcare as the mission, finding the right co-founder

0:43:54 — Founder trust and culture, behavior change psychology, hypergrowth

0:53:07 — Leading with love, AI as an inflection point, open-source AGI, abundance

1:01:48 — Building healthy habits, emotional depth of weight struggles, gratitude as motivation

1:11:41 — AGI forecasts, recursive intelligence, human uniqueness, coexistence

1:21:15 — What makes us human, Buddhism on perception and reality, felt experience

1:30:48 — Love as the missing variable, quantum insights, consciousness, timeless connection

1:41:01 — Contemplating origin and meaning, KOOM Festival, choosing love over fear

1:51:45 — Closing reflections

Books mentioned in this episode:

- Life 3.0 — Max Tegmark

- Proof of Heaven — Eben Alexander

Links:

Noom: https://tinyurl.com/5xbmtxhr

Gartner report on AI spending in 2026: https://tinyurl.com/yt85ecca

KOOM Festival NYC 2025: https://tinyurl.com/yum3adke