In this episode of The Owner Seat, Albert Ramos sits down with Bobby Hines & Anna Hines — longtime fitness and wellness operators who’ve built, scaled, and managed multi-brand franchise businesses across Anytime Fitness, Basecamp Fitness, and Waxing The City over nearly two decades.

Bobby recently sold his final Anytime Fitness location after almost 20 years with the brand — and now advises owners on acquisitions and exits as a Business Advisor at Transworld, bringing a true operator lens to M&A (not an Excel-only view).

Anna has built a multi-brand franchise portfolio while navigating leadership, growth, and family alongside Bobby — making this a rare conversation about the real lifecycle of ownership, from build → scale → exit.

If you’re a fitness or wellness franchisee, multi-unit owner, operator, or entrepreneur, this episode is essential listening.

Because exits aren’t just financial.

They’re emotional. They’re identity. They’re timing.

And most owners don’t learn the truth until they’re already too late.

This is not a sales pitch.

This is a real operator conversation about what ownership costs — and what it gives back when it’s done right.

🔍 In this episode, we cover:

1. What Bobby didn’t understand when he opened his first Anytime Fitness
2. How the meaning of “success” changes as you scale from 1 unit to multiple
3. The moment business stops feeling exciting and starts feeling heavy
4. What it actually feels like to sell something tied to your identity
5. The emotional moment most owners don’t expect when they exit
6. Exit timing: what “someday” really costs franchisees
7. What makes a business truly sellable in fitness & wellness
8. The biggest myths around valuation (and what owners get wrong)
9. What buyers notice immediately that owners miss
10. The role of clean financial reporting in deals actually closing
11. How SBA lenders look at fitness & wellness deals today
12. How to build optionality while you’re still growing (not when you’re burnt out)
13. What a “good exit” looks like beyond the check

This episode is for owners who want choices — not financial regret.

I’m Albert Ramos, Fractional CFO and Founder of Stratego Intel Consulting.

I help fitness, wellness, and franchise brands ($500K–$30M+) build cash visibility, clean financials, exit-ready reporting, and optionality, including:

1. 13-week cash flow visibility + decision rules
2. Unit-level economics + margin...