#45 | From Luxury Watches to Agentic AI: The Future of Sales
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Episode Overview
Michael Kalinichenko has earned six promotions across a decade in SaaS, leading high-performing sales teams atIntercom, Zendesk, and Rieke — all while maintaining under 10% voluntary attrition across seven years of management. Before tech, he was selling Swiss-made luxury watches in one of the most relationship-driven, paper-based industries imaginable.
In this conversation, Michael and Pete trace the arc from manual relationship selling to the age of agentic AI — and find that the most durable competitive edge in sales has nothing to do withsoftware. They cover the hidden spectrum of AI adoption across European markets, why the world's most advanced LLMs carry a Western cultural bias that EMEA sellers must account for, and how to lead a team through constant disruption without letting uncertainty become anxiety.
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