Nancy and Sarah talk about the death of Hayden Panatierre at the age of 36, which just so happens to be the age that Marilyn Monroe died. Sarah wants to know why child actors get an exception against laws preventing kids from working. Nancy spills the secrets on how they get babies to cry in the commercials — and it’s sad! The discuss addiction, postpartum depression, domestic abuse, and more.

The ladies also discuss Nancy’s mom, who passed Monday (yesterday as of this writing). Kathy, we miss you already, and we thank you. Now, about that leather jumpsuit …

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Also discussed:

* Nancy in the Morning™️

* Italians are Sarah’s favorite ethnic stereotype

* Dax / Dak, whatever

* Heroes = pre-Mad Men TV programming

* Can a mother come back from losing custody of her children?

* The mysteries of Marilyn Monroe’s death

* Blackout drinking is “suicide for a night”

* Everybody loves Xanax

Plus, that time Nancy slept like a gunshot victim, our favorite Miranda Lambert jams, and much more.

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Episode Notes:

“Hayden Panetierre is Dead: Star of Nashville and Heroes Dies at 36,” New York Times obituary

This is Me: A Reckoning, by Hayden Panittiere

To the Bridge: A True Story of Motherhood and Murder, by Nancy Rommelmann

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