Tom is joined by the former Greens senator for New Zealand (Western Australia), Scott Ludlam! What has Scott been up to since leaving politics? Dolly Parton died and it is strangely non-partisan. (14:17) What is Scott's take on the state of Aus politics? (21:11) And then run through the rise of the far right, how it was created by a sophisticated long-term project, Israel, climate, AUKUS, oh my. (40:12)

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