What if the hardest financial planning work isn’t about numbers—but sitting with someone who’s dying? Rose Zealand reframes birth and death as parallel forms of “labor,” involving both the individual and their circle of care. She exposes a critical gap in traditional planning: when a midlife diagnosis hits, technical advice collides with shock and emotional shutdown. As both CFP® and death doula, she works in that space—where timing matters more than urgency. Push too fast, and clients retreat. Move with readiness, and real progress begins. Her insight is clear: money shapes care, but presence and trust determine whether planning can actually happen.

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A podcast that blends the nuts and bolts of financial advice with the emotions that drive our money decisions.
Join Rick Kahler, CFP®, CFT™, as he blends practical financial wisdom with the emotional insights that shape our choices. Discover how financial therapy can help you make money decisions that truly align with your values..